Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Dreamfish-discussion] Learned Helplessness
To: dreamfish-discussion@lists.dreamfish.com
Hi Grant and Dreamfish;
Your post on learned helplessness and the link to Seligman’s work got me thinking about Dreamfish and the Pessimism - Optimism spectrum. I've prepared a little sketch showing where I think Dreamfish fits into Seligman’s model of how we think and act. I thought the results are kind of interesting:
[ Also posted at http://www.danbashaw.com/dreamfish-context.png ]
The way I see it, the 'End Zones' of pessimistic despair and optimistic delusion are not places where work can be done and action can be taken. At both of these extremes, as the thought-clouds are meant to show, there is no motivation or capacity for change.
In my view it is in the middle zone – the zone of action – where real change can be made and impact the world.
Within this zone people with different ways of thinking can work together and accomplish Dreamfishy things. I've drawn the Dreamfish head and body over towards the optimistic side of the zone of action, since this is where Dreamfish is focused: towards acts of creation and transformation.
However that is not the whole story... Dreamfish has a tail, and that is where the necessary activities of maintenance and operations that require a dollop of pessimism happen.
(My idea that maintenance or problem-solving and creation are two different processes comes from Robert Fritz's 'The Path of Least Resistance'. Mapping problem-solving to a pessimistic bias and creation to an optimistic bias is my own view.)
When I look at the diagram, the part that is jarring to me is the 'Zone of Delusion'... North American business and social culture has a strongly 'positivist' ideology, so I expect many will agree with my typification of the 'Zone of Despair' and the 'Zone of Action', but will find my typification of the 'Zone of Delusion' wrong-headed. However I do feel that it is possible to be 'off the scale' in the optimistic direction, as well as in the pessimistic.
It's the Zone of Action' where the action is – And Dreamfish can do excellent work within this zone.
Swim On!
Dan
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Grant Bowman wrote:
I wanted to share some thoughts on learned helplessness prompted by a
discussion between two friends of mine, Rick Moen and Ed Cherlin who
have useful and informative perspectives on education and computers,
two topics I am committed to. I hope this post will help serve as a
starting point for Dreamfish related discussions.
The wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness was where I first
turned to read more after seeing the forwarded email below. The
discussion in the article and link to clinical depression intrigues
me. On outlook of 'other than personal, pervasive, or permanent' was
key in one part of the article.
--
Dan Bashaw
skype: danbashaw
twitter: danbashaw
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