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US POLITICS
JANUARY 6TH
Jamie Raskin throws Jim Jordan's words from Benghazi
back in his face as Jordan dodges the Jan. 6 probe
JANUARY 6TH
Jamie Raskin throws Jim Jordan's words from Benghazi
back in his face as Jordan dodges the Jan. 6 probe
Rep. Jim Jordan ... Jim Jordan actually tries to blame Democrats for the Jan. 6 attack
Original article: https://www.alternet.org/2022/01/jim-jordan-jamie-raskin/
Burgess COMMENTARY
American democracy is in trouble. Much of this trouble comes because some ... actually many ... of the freedoms that are so important and are protected by the Constitutions and the Republic's founding documents have been abused by politicians and others with power and influence.
People of my age and older have some understanding of what 'total war' looks like. People who have lived through local war also know the hell of war. Most of the modern American electorate has no idea of what this hell is all about ... worse they seem to think of war in terms of some digital game, when the reality is that it is the hell of death and destruction and total devastation.
I was born in the UK in the very early days of WWII. We lived in the suburbs of London and by the time I was 4 years old I had quite a lot of experience of bombing. Almost 80 years later the lethality of bombing is an order of magnitude better ... or worse depending on what side you are on.
WWII started because of the way in which the German people and its political system were gamed by relatively few awful people. Adolph Hitler had a certain amount of public charisma and he was aided and abetted by others who had an understanding of messaging, notably Hermann Goering who was in charge of Nazi propaganda. Much of the apparent dysfunction of the modern American democracy is to do with messaging and misinformation which has been modernized to be effective in the modern era of digital media.
The United States has little appetite for contolling the media, especially the modern social media. In theory this is justified by America's Constitutional Law, but it also allows for untruths to propagate in very unhealthy ways. There are movements going on that remind one of what happened in the early days of the Third Reich in Germany in the 1930s.
Peter Burgess
Sarah K. Burris and Raw Story
January 11, 2022
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) was complying with requests from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack until former President Donald Trump told him to stop, Punchbowl News reported Monday.
But Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), a member of the committee, told Jordan that he should refer back to his own words during one of the many Benghazi hearings his party held last decade.
Speaking to MSNBC's John Heilemann, Raskin quoted from a statement Jordan made about the Benghazi probe
'To answer Jim Jordan, I would quote Jim Jordan from the views that he expressed in the final Benghazi report, where he said that all of the truth must come out,' said Raskin. 'Everybody needs to testify, and nobody's got the right to hide anything from Congress. So, I think he had it right then. Jim Jordan, more than anybody else, knows what dogged, aggressive investigation is about, even when he's on a wild goose chase, he demands all the information he wants, and we're not on that. We are on the central investigative mission certainly of this decade, if not this century, to get to the bottom of this terrible political crime that was incited and to a substantial extent organized by Donald Trump.'
He went on to say that the committee hasn't discussed what the next steps are for Jordan, whether he'll be referred to the Justice Department or be subpoenaed by the committee to turn over information.
'Article I of the Constitution gives each House of Congress the right to set the rules of its own proceedings,' Raskin explained. 'We are also -- have disciplinary power over members, including the power of censure, admonishment, all the way to expulsion from the body and the speech and debate clause says members of Congress should not be questioned for their legislative work and judgments outside of congress, clearly implying they can be questioned inside of Congress. And, of course, that's a habitual occurrence with the Ethics Committee where we call people all the time so there's nothing remotely extraordinary about the idea that we can call and demand the presence of members.'He went on to say that the implication that the investigation isn't legitimate 'was soundly, thoroughly repudiated by the D.C. Circuit.' If Congress doesn't have the power to research the attack on Congress 'then there are no legitimate legislative purposes. So, we've got to put that lie to bed immediately.'
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Jamie Raskin throws Jim Jordan's words from Benghazi back in his face for Jan. 6 investigation
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