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SCOTUS 2024 AMAZING DECISIONS BY SCOTUS MSNBC: Lawrence reveals the ‘very bad news’ for Trump in the immunity decision PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m_Rkop0noc Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Lawrence reveals the ‘very bad news’ for Trump in the immunity decision MSNBC Jul 1, 2024 6.87M subscribers #SupremeCourt #Trump #immunity “Mike Pence is going to walk into a federal court room, raise his right hand, take an oath to tell the truth and testify against Donald Trump in this case in September,” says Lawrence O’Donnell on the “bad news” coming out of the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling. » Subscribe to MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/msnbc Download our new MSNBC app for the latest breaking news and daily headlines at a glance: https://www.msnbc.com/information/dow... Follow MSNBC Show Blogs MaddowBlog: https://www.msnbc.com/maddowblog ReidOut Blog: https://www.msnbc.com/reidoutblog MSNBC delivers breaking news, in-depth analysis of politics headlines, as well as commentary and informed perspectives. 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Find MSNBC on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/msnbc/ Follow MSNBC on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MSNBC Follow MSNBC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msnbc #SupremeCourt #Trump #immunity Joy Read Transcript 0:11 >>> WE'RE EXPECTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO ISSUE AN ADDRESS TO GIVE A LIVE ADDRESS TODAY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE IN RESPONSE TO THE SUPREME COURT RULING SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY RARE, THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING JUST IN A 0:23 LITTLE BIT, WE'LL BRING THAT TO 0:24 YOU WHEN THAT HAPPENS. 0:25 I WANT TO BRING IN JOY REID WHO 0:29 WHOSE HOUR IS THIS, WHO HAS A 0:32 LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE DECISION 0:35 TODAY. 0:35 >> CHRIS, IT WAS -- IT WAS SOMETHING TO READ TODAY, BOTH THE DECISION AND THE DISSENT AND I GUESS THE SORT OF BEST WAY FOR HIM TO SUM IT UP, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HERE WATCHES GAME OF 0:48 THRONES, IF YOU'RE A GAME OF 0:50 THRONES FAN YOU'LL KNOW THERE'S A KING AND THEN THERE'S THE HAND OF THE KING, AND WHEN THE KING IS VERY YOUNG OR VERY OLD OR VERY MAD, THE HAND OF THE KING 1:00 IS EFFECTIVELY THE KING, AND WHAT I THINK YOU SAW IN THIS RULING TODAY WAS THE SUPREME COURT DECLARE THEIR PREFERRED PRESIDENT OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY NO DEMOCRAT WOULD EXERCISE THESE POWERS WOULD LIKE THEIR NEXT PRESIDENT TO, THEY DECLARE THEIR 1:21 PRESIDENTS TO BE KING AND THE 1:22 HAND OF THE KING. 1:23 THIS IS FROM PAGE 110. 1:26 FROM THE DISSENT. 1:31 WITH ITS ADOPTION THAT SOMETIMES 1:34 EXEMPT THE PRESIDENT OF DICTATES 1:36 OF THE LAW WHEN THE COURT SAYS 1:38 SO, THE COURT HAS EFFECTIVELY 1:40 SNAPPED FROM THE LEGISLATIVE TO 1:42 BIND THE PRESIDENT OR NOT TO CONGRESS'S MANDATES AND IT'S ALSO THEREBY AUGMENTED THE POWER OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY AND ITSELF. WHAT JOHN ROBERTS SAID TODAY, HE AND HIS FIVE FELLOW LEONARD LEO 2:00 APPOINTEES WILL DECIDE WHEN THE PRESIDENT HAS IRE. ONLY THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION, THEY ARE THE HAND OF THE KING. THE LAST THING I WILL SAY THEY REPEATEDLY CALLED FOR BOLDNESS 2:13 AND DECISIVE ACTION THAT WE NEED 2:15 TO SEE BOLDNESS AND DECISIVE 2:18 ACTION AND ONLY ABSOLUTE 2:20 IMMUNITY AND PRESUMED IMMUNITY 2:22 CAN GIVE A PRESIDENT SUCH 2:26 BOLDNESS. 2:26 HOW PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS HOW TO 2:28 IMPLEMENT THE TRAIL OF TEARS FOR 2:32 INDIGENOUS PEOPLE TO MARCH, HOW 2:36 PRESIDENT LINCOLN ESSENTIALLY 2:37 DELETED THE HUMAN PROPERTY, $10 2:40 BILLION WORTH OF HUMAN PROPERTY 2:42 FROM EVERY STATE IN REBELLION BY 2:45 FIAT, HOW PRESIDENTS, LET'S TALK 2:47 ABOUT THE PRESIDENTS IN THE 20th 2:49 HARRY TRUMAN UNLEASHED A NUCLEAR 2:53 HOLOCAUST ON TWO PARTS OF JAPAN, 2:55 HE DID THAT BOLDLY AND 2:57 DECISIVELY WITHOUT FEAR OF 2:59 PROSECUTION, HOW THEN DOES A NEW 3:00 PRESIDENT, A FUTURE PRESIDENT 3:02 NEED SUCH BOLDNESS TO COME FROM 3:04 THE FIAT OF THE SUPREME COURT. 3:07 >> THERE HAS BEEN NO LACK OF 3:09 BOLDNESS AND DECISIVE FROM 3:11 AMERICAN PRESIDENTS AND 3:12 EXECUTIVES THROUGH THE YEARS 3:14 PARTICULARLY WHEN OPERATING IN 3:15 THE CONDUCT OF WAR, 3:18 PARTICULARLY, ANDREW, THIS HAS 3:19 BEEN A SHOCKING TRAJECTORY FOR 3:21 YOU AS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE LAW 3:23 QUITE WELL AND THE DEPARTMENT OF 3:26 JUSTICE. 3:26 >> DEFINITELY AGREED WITH RACHEL 3:28 THAT I JUST DID NOT EXPECT THERE 3:31 WOULD BE FIVE VOTES FOR THIS, 3:33 THIS IS A WATERSHED MOMENT BIG 3:37 PICTURE. 3:37 I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE 3:40 UNDERSTAND, WITH RESPECT TO THE 3:42 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON PAGES 3:43 20 AND 21, THE DECISION MAKES IT CLEAR EVEN IF THERE'S A KNOWN SHAM PROSECUTION THAT'S OFF-LIMITS, IF YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO'S ON TAPE SAYING BRING A FALSE PROSECUTION CANNOT PROSECUTE. 4:00 NO MATTER HOW STRONG THE EVIDENCE IS AND THIS IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT RUE NOW ABOUT WEAPONIZING IF THEY GET BACK IN OFFICE, SO THAT PART IS -- IT'S JUST SO -- TO THE 4:15 RULE OF LAW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 4:16 ABOUT A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 4:18 THAT THE WHOLE PRINCIPLE IS TO 4:20 BE SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT AND 4:23 NOT BE SORT OF OH BAYING WHAT 4:29 THE PRESIDENT SAYS YOU HAVE TO 4:30 DO. 4:31 >> I THINK THE WHOLE PIECE OF 4:33 THIS WHERE THE LEGAL INTERSECTS 4:37 COLLIDES VIOLENTLY WITH THE 4:38 POLITICAL IS THAT 2016, TRUMP 4:41 WAS, YOU COULD GO BACK AND SAY 4:43 MAYBE THERE WERE OTHER REASONS 4:44 TO RUN, IN 2024, THE ONLY REASON 4:46 HE'S RUNNING IS FOR RETRIBUTION, DEFINING IT AS OFFICIAL. HE WANTS TO USE OFFICIAL ACTS. FORGET ABOUT US. FORGET ABOUT THE FREE PRESS'S 5:01 ANALYSIS THAT THE JUSTICES WROTE DOWN AND PUT IN WRITING. WE DO NOW HAVE A KING. HE'S AHEAD IN THE POLLS RUNNING TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTS TO SEEK OUT IN HIS WORDS TO SEEK OUT RETRIBUTION, ONLY INTERESTED IN THE OFFICIAL PARTS OF THE JOB. HE COULD HAVE SOMEONE ARCHITECT 5:27 THE WHITE HOUSE AROUND 5:28 OFFICIALLY SEEKING OUT 5:30 PUNISHMENT FOR HIS ENEMIES. 5:31 2017, A STORY IN 'THE NEW YORK 5:33 TIMES' HE WANTED TO PROSECUTE 5:34 HILLARY CLINTON. 5:35 HE FIRES JAMES COMEY -- HE 5:39 WANTED TO COMMIT CRIMES 5:42 DISGUISED AS OFFICIAL ACTS. 5:43 >> I THINK HE SAID THIS PUBLICLY 5:47 A THOUSAND TIMES. I WAS READING TODAY, ON THE LOVELY PROJECT 2025 PLAN, ON PAGE 560, THIS IS FIRST LINE OF THAT PART, THE NEXT CONSERVATIVE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD EMBRACE 6:00 THE CONSTITUTION AND UNDERSTAND THE OBLIGATION OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO USE ITS INDEPENDENT RESOURCES AND AUTHORITIES TO RESTRAIN THE EXCESSES OF BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL BRANCHES. THIS IS PLAN THAT STEVE BANNON 6:14 HAS BEEN HOLDING UP IN HE CENT 6:17 INTERVIEWS. 6:18 AND THE JUSTICES WHAT THEY DID 6:19 TODAY IS BASICALLY, I WORKED FOR 6:21 TWO PRESIDENTS. 6:25 NICOLE WORKED FOR A PRESIDENT. 6:33 THEY HAVEN'T -- THEY'VE DONE THE 6:35 BAD THINGS WITHOUT -- NOW YOU 6:40 HAVE THE PERSON YOU'RE ASKING 6:41 THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO RACHEL'S 6:43 POINT TO VOTE FOR PEOPLE AND 6:45 TRUST THE PRESIDENTS THEY ELECT 6:47 WILL HAVE THE MORALITY TO NOT 6:50 ABUSE. 6:51 THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. >> SO, THE VERY BAD NEWS FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THIS DECISION TODAY AND FOR CANDIDATE TRUMP, VERY, VERY BAD, IS THAT MIKE 7:00 PENCE IS GOING TO WALK INTO A FEDERAL COURTROOM RAISE HIS RIGHT HAND AND TAKE AN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH AND TESTIFY AGAINST DONALD TRUMP IN THIS CASE IN SEPTEMBER. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MUCH FASTER. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT THIS IS, IS WE CREATED AN ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY ON ONE PARAGRAPH OF THE INDICTMENT, APPLYING TO EXACTLY ONE PARAGRAPH OF THE INDICTMENT. THE REST OF THE INDICTMENT GOES BACK TO THE JUDGE CHUTKAN'S COURTROOM, THIS SUPREME COURT HAS ORDERED HER TO HAVE A HEARING ABOUT THE EVIDENCE IN THE CASE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE ACT IN QUESTION IS AN OFFICIAL ACT OR HAS A PROTECTION OR NOT. THAT'S FOR EVERYTHING IN THE CASE EXCEPT FOR ONE CONVERSATION THAT HE HAD WITH THE ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, BASICALLY, THERE WILL BE SOME BRIEFS ON EACH SIDE AND THE 8:00 JUDGE WILL SCHEDULE A DAY AND SAY WE START TODAY. MR. SMITH, WHO'S YOUR FIRST WITNESS? EXACTLY LIKE A PROSECUTION. WHAT JACK SMITH WILL HAVE TO DO AND SOMETIMES IN PRETRIAL EVIDENTIARY STUFF THEY DON'T WANT TO TURN ALL CARDS OVER. THEY NEED TO SEE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR CARDS. EVERY WITNESS HE HAS HE'LL BRING INTO THAT COURTROOM, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE UNDER OATH AND THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO ABLE TO 8:31 CROSS EXAMINE THEM. 8:36 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS 8:37 INCREDIBLE JANUARY 6th HEARING 8:39 ON STEROIDS, POSSIBLY FOR SIX, 8:42 EIGHT WEEKS, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER 8:46 MAYBE. 8:46 >> ANDREW, DO YOU THINK THAT'S 8:48 GOING TO HAPPEN. >> YEAH, I'D ALWAYS THOUGHT THE SILVER LINING, A SMALL ONE BECAUSE THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS THIS DECISION IS HORRENDOUS FOR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, BUT LAWRENCE IS RIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE HEARING AND THE SUPREME COURT 9:00 HAS ACTUALLY SAID THERE HAS TO BE, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOFT FIGHTING ABOUT IT. THIS IS HEARING, JUDGE CHUTKAN CAN HAVE A BRIEFING. >> JOY, THERE'S ALSO TO YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE SORT OF CLARITY OF THIS, OR THE STAKES, ONE THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT, TOO, RACHEL'S POINT IS JUST HOW TERRIFYING THIS IS ABOUT THE ELECTION. SOME ACTIVATING SMALL DEMOCRATIC 9:35 ENERGY THAT CAN BE BROUGHT OUT 9:40 THAT'S GENERALLY APPALLING MOVE 9:41 BY THE COURT. 9:42 >> IT'S VERY CLARIFYING. 9:48 BY THE WAY, GOOGLE PROJECT 2025, WE'RE AUTHORIZING, REALLY SORT OF -- THEY REPEATEDLY TALKING ABOUT BOLD AND DECISIVE ACTION. WHAT ACTION DO THEY HAVE IN 10:00 MIND? PROBABLY THE SAME ACTION THAT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION HAS IN MIND. HERITAGE ACTION HAS IN MIND. LEONARD LEO HAD IN MIND. STEVE BANNON HAS IN MIND. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS THAT, IF WE GE OUR PREFERRED PRESIDENT BACK WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO BREAK THE BOUNDARIES OF THE LAW, PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT, TO FEEL FREE TO EVEN USE 10:26 VIOLENCE, TO USE MASS 10:29 INCARCERATION, DO THOSE CAMPS, 10:31 TO TAKE THE BOLD AND DECISIVE 10:33 ACTION THAT WE HAVE SAID IS 10:35 NECESSARY FOR THE FUNCTION OF 10:36 THE PRESIDENCY, TO GET THE 10:39 AGENDA DONE AND WE'LL PROTECT 10:40 YOU AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, 10:42 DONALD TRUMP, WHEN YOU'VE GONE 10:43 TOO FAR AND ONLY THEN WILL BE 10:46 STOPPED. 10:46 THIS IS A CLARION CALL TO EVERY 10:52 AMERICAN. 10:52 THAT DEBATE IS LIKE 34 COUNTS OLD. IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE. ALL THAT MATTERS IS YOU DON'T ALLOW THE PERSON BACK INTO 11:01 OFFICE WHO WILL USE THIS POWER GIVEN BY THIS COURT, THIS IMPERIAL COURT, TO IMPLEMENT THAT AGENDA THEY WROTE DOWN AND PUBLISHED BECAUSE THEY KNOW NO ONE WILL STOP THEM EXCEPT VOTERS. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF BIDEN IS OLD. WHAT MAT

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