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US POLITICS
BRILLIANT HAND-OFF BIDEN TO HARRIS

CBS News: Sen. Bernie Sanders on Harris campaign, Biden stepping aside


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Peter Burgess COMMENTARY

Peter Burgess
Sen. Bernie Sanders on Harris campaign, Biden stepping aside

CBS News

Jul 22, 2024

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A growing number of lawmakers are throwing their support behind Vice President Kamala Harris in the race for the White House. One of the senior members whose support she needs to earn is Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. He joins CBS News to discuss Harris' 2024 bid and her path to winning the presidency.

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Transcript
  • 0:00
  • SKY, WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC
  • CRISIS.
  • >> SPACE TOURISM' NOSHING ON
  • THE FREE CBS NEWS APP .
  • >>> A GROWING NUMBER OF
  • LAWMAKERS ARE THROWING THEIR
  • SUPPORT BEHIND VICE PRESIDENT
  • KAMALA HARRIS IN THE RACE FOR
  • THE WHITE HOUSE . IN HER FIRST
  • STATEMENT AFTER BIDEN ANNOUNCED
  • HE WOULD NOT SEEK REELECTION,
  • HARRIS SAID SHE INTENDED TO
  • EARN HER PARTY'S NOMINATION.
  • ONE OF THE SENIOR MEMBERS OF
  • HER PARTY, WHOSE SUPPORT SHE
  • NEEDS TO EARN HIS VERMONT
  • SENATOR, BERNIE SANDERS.
  • HE JOINS US NOW WITH
  • CORRESPONDENT, ROBERT COSTA.
  • >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
  • HERE AT CBS NEWS.
  • WE HAVE LEARNED THAT YOU AND
  • VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAVE HAD
  • A CONVERSATION IN THE WAKE OF
  • BIDEN'S DECISION TO STEP AWAY
  • FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
  • CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHERE YOU
  • STAND RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF A
  • POSSIBLE ENDORSEMENT OR NOT OF
  • VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS
  • AND WHAT IS ON YOUR MIND WHEN
  • YOU MAKE THAT DECISION?
  • THANKS, BOB, FOR HAVING ME.

  • 1:00
  • I THINK THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT
  • IS GOING TO BE THE DEMOCRATIC
  • NOMINEE.
  • I THINK SHE STANDS IN A VERY
  • TOUGH RACE.
  • I THINK SHE STANDS WITH THE
  • REAL POSSIBILITY OF WINNING
  • THIS ELECTION AND MAYBE WINNING
  • IT WITH A BIG BOAT.
  • BUT THE ISSUE THAT CONCERNS ME
  • IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE KIND
  • OF TURNED THEIR BACKS ON THE
  • PAIN THAT MILLIONS OF WORKING-
  • CLASS PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO ARE
  • ELDERLY, CHILDREN, LOWER INCOME
  • PEOPLE, ARE EXPERIENCING.
  • AND MY HOPE IS, THAT IF THE
  • VICE PRESIDENT STANDS UP AND
  • SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT 60% OF
  • OUR PEOPLE ARE LIVING PAYCHECK
  • TO PAYCHECK WHILE THE
  • BILLIONAIRE CLASS HAS NEVER,
  • EVER HAD IT SO GOOD.
  • IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
  • WITH GOT MILLIONS OF SENIORS

  • 2:02
  • WHO CAN'T AFFORD DENTAL CARE,
  • HEARING AIDS, EYEGLASSES.
  • WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF
  • CHILDHOOD POVERTY OF ANY MAJOR
  • COUNTRY ON EARTH AND THE NEW
  • WEALTH AND INCOME IS GOING TO
  • THE PEOPLE ON TOP.
  • AS SHE IS PREPARED TO CAMPAIGN
  • AROUND AN AGENDA THAT SPEAKS TO
  • THE NEEDS OF THE WORKING CLASS
  • OF THIS COUNTRY, SHE WILL WIN
  • THIS ELECTION AND WIN IT BIG IN
  • MY VIEW.
  • >> YOU HAVE CAMPAIGN STOPS TO
  • CONNECT WITH WORKING VOTERS
  • COMING UP IN NEW ENGLAND, YOUR
  • HOME REGION.
  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPEAR WITH
  • HER ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN
  • THE COMING WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT
  • THESE ISSUES, AND AS YOU ASSESS
  • HER IN HER POSITIONS, WHAT IS
  • YOUR TIMELINE OF WHETHER YOU
  • WILL ISSUE AN ENDORSEMENT OR
  • NOT BEFORE THE CONVENTION?
  • I LOOK FORWARD TO CHATTING WITH
  • HER VERY SHORTLY.
  • WE HAD A NICE DISCUSSION THE
  • OTHER DAY BUT AGAIN, WHAT I
  • WANT TO SEE, BECAUSE I WANT HER
  • TO WIN.
  • IS TO SPEAK TO THE NEEDS OF
  • PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN
  • FOR SO MANY YEARS.
  • SO, AT A TIME OF UNPRECEDENTED
  • INCUMBENT WEALTH AND WE NEED A

  • 3:01
  • DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WE NEED A
  • 3:01
  • PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO IS
  • 3:02
  • PREPARED NOT ONLY TO STAND UP
  • 3:04
  • TO THE BIG MONEY BUT THE FIGHT
  • 3:05
  • FOR WORKING PEOPLE. AND IF SHE
  • 3:08
  • DOES THAT, I THINK SHE WILL
  • 3:09
  • HAVE A GREAT CAMPAIGN AND
  • 3:10
  • CERTAINLY, IF I WERE ASKED,
  • 3:11
  • WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
  • 3:20
  • WORK WITH HER TO MAKE SURE THAT
  • 3:21
  • SHE IS ELECTED.
  • 3:22
  • >> SENATOR, YOU HAVE HEARD THE
  • 3:23
  • NAMES BEING MENTIONED AS
  • 3:24
  • POSSIBLE VICE PRESIDENTIAL
  • 3:24
  • CANDIDATES BY SOME OF THE PARTY
  • 3:26
  • OFFICIALS.
  • 3:26
  • MANY BEING MENTIONED, AS YOU
  • 3:27
  • KNOW, ARE PERCEIVED AS CENTRIST
  • 3:28
  • DEMOCRATS.
  • 3:28
  • GOVERNORS FROM THE SOUTH AND
  • 3:30
  • SENATORS WHO ARE NOT
  • 3:34
  • NECESSARILY EMBRACED BY EVERY
  • 3:35
  • PROGRESSIVE VOTER IN THIS
  • 3:36
  • COUNTRY.
  • 3:38
  • DOES THAT BOTHER YOU THAT
  • 3:39
  • EMERGING SHORT LIST DOES NOT
  • 3:41
  • INCLUDE PROGRESSIVE NAMES AND
  • 3:52
  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A
  • 3:53
  • PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT CONSIDERED
  • 3:54
  • FOR THE TICKET AND ARE YOU TOO
  • 3:55
  • OPEN AS A FORMER PRESIDENTIAL
  • 3:56
  • CANDIDATE AND SENATOR TO BE ON
  • 3:57
  • THE TICKET?
  • 3:57
  • HOW DO YOU SEE THAT SHOWS --
  • 3:59
  • CHOICE, IF ANY?

  • 4:02
  • WE NEED A TICKET AND I'M SURE
  • 4:04
  • THE VICE PRESIDENT IS MORE THAN
  • 4:05
  • CAPABLE OF DOING IT BUT WE ALSO
  • 4:06
  • NEED A VICE PRESIDENTIAL
  • 4:08
  • CANDIDATE WHO CAN SPEAK IN THE
  • 4:11
  • LANGUAGE OF WORKING-CLASS
  • 4:12
  • PEOPLE AND ARTICULATE NOT ONLY
  • 4:13
  • THE PROBLEMS, BUT THESE
  • 4:14
  • SOLUTIONS.
  • 4:17
  • WE NEED A VICE PRESIDENTIAL
  • 4:18
  • CANDIDATE AND A PRESIDENTIAL
  • 4:19
  • CANDIDATE, WHO WILL TALK ABOUT
  • 4:21
  • THE FACT THAT WHETHER IT'S
  • 4:25
  • BURLINGTON, VERMONT OR LOS
  • 4:26
  • ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE
  • 4:27
  • CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING.
  • 4:30
  • WE HAVE, AT A TIME OF MASSIVE
  • 4:39
  • INCOME INEQUALITY, 600,000
  • 4:40
  • PEOPLE SLEEPING OUT ON THE
  • 4:41
  • STREETS.
  • 4:41
  • THAT DESPITE SPENDING TWICE AS
  • 4:42
  • MUCH ON HEALTHCARE IS THE PEOPLE
  • 4:44
  • OF THE OTHER COUNTRY, YOU HAVE
  • 4:45
  • 85 MILLION PEOPLE UNINSURED OR
  • 4:47
  • UNDERINSURED. 60,000 PEOPLE DIE
  • 4:52
  • EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY CAN
  • 4:53
  • AFFORD TO GET TO A DOCTOR.
  • 4:54
  • PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO GET TO A
  • 4:56
  • DENTIST.

  • 5:00
  • ON TOP OF ALL THAT, WE NEED A
  • 5:02
  • VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND
  • 5:03
  • A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, AND I
  • 5:04
  • KNOW THE VICE PRESIDENT WILL DO
  • 5:05
  • THIS, TO CONTRAST OUR VIEWS
  • 5:06
  • WITH TRUMPS ON THE EXISTENTIAL
  • 5:07
  • THREAT OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
  • 5:08
  • TRUMP BELIEVES, UNBELIEVABLY,
  • 5:15
  • THIS IS SIMPLY TRUE, THAT
  • 5:16
  • CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX
  • 5:17
  • CREATED IN CHINA. VIRTUALLY
  • 5:21
  • EVERY SCIENTIST BELIEVES IT IS
  • 5:22
  • A RESULT OF MAN-MADE ACTIVITY
  • 5:23
  • AND CARBON EMISSIONS.
  • 5:24
  • SO, WE NEED TO BE HAVING A
  • 5:26
  • TICKET THAT CONTRASTS ON THE
  • 5:34
  • ISSUE AS WELL.
  • 5:35
  • >> JUST QUICKLY, SENATOR, ON
  • 5:36
  • THIS POINT, ARE YOU OPEN TO
  • 5:37
  • BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE VP
  • 5:38
  • SLOT OR NOT?
  • 5:42
  • >> WELL, I HAVE NOT GOT MY CALL
  • 5:43
  • YET.
  • 5:43
  • I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I GET THE
  • 5:45
  • CALL.
  • 5:45
  • >> I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN
  • 5:49
  • WHO LOVES HISTORY AND POLITICS,
  • 5:50
  • WHO HAS A QUESTION.
  • 5:51
  • >> SENATOR, DO YOU HAVE A FEAR,
  • 5:53
  • HAD JOE BIDEN STAYED IN THE
  • 5:54
  • RACE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE
  • 5:56
  • END OF HIS POLITICAL LIFE AND
  • 5:57
  • HIS SECOND TERM WOULD'VE BEEN

  • 6:01
  • EVEN LESS BEHOLDEN TO WHAT YOU
  • 6:02
  • WOULD CALL THE BIG MONEY
  • 6:03
  • INTERESTS, WHEREAS NOW, IF VICE
  • 6:11
  • PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, SHE
  • 6:12
  • WOULD HAVE TO THINK MAYBE ABOUT
  • 6:13
  • A SECOND TERM, AND THAT
  • 6:14
  • DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO KIND
  • 6:15
  • OF PRESIDENCIES MEANS THERE IS
  • 6:16
  • LESS INCENTIVE FOR HER AND HER
  • 6:18
  • TEAM TO FIGHT THE BIG DRUG
  • 6:19
  • COMPANY IS AND SOME OF THE
  • 6:21
  • OTHER LARGER INTERESTS AND THE
  • 6:22
  • BILLIONAIRES YOU TALK ABOUT?
  • 6:29
  • >> JOHN, I DON'T THINK IT WORKS
  • 6:31
  • QUITE LIKE THAT.
  • 6:31
  • THE REASON I STRONGLY SUPPORTED
  • 6:32
  • PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS NOT ONLY
  • 6:33
  • BECAUSE OF HIS VERY STRONG
  • 6:35
  • RECORD. HE WAS THE ONLY
  • 6:38
  • PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY
  • 6:39
  • TO ACTUALLY STAND ON A PICKET
  • 6:40
  • LINE DURING A STRIKE WITH
  • 6:41
  • WORKERS AND HAS BEEN VERY PRO-
  • 6:43
  • WORKER IN TERMS OF RAISING THE
  • 6:55
  • MINIMUM WAGE, SUPPORTING THE
  • 6:55
  • PRO-ACT, WHICH MAKES IT EASIER
  • 6:56
  • FOR WORKERS TO JOIN UNIONS
  • 6:58
  • APPOINTING A VERY GOOD
  • 6:58
  • SECRETARY OF LABOR, ET CETERA.

  • 7:04
  • THE ISSUE IS, THAT AS A PARTY,
  • 7:06
  • DOES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE
  • 7:07
  • THE COURAGE WITHIN A CORRUPT
  • 7:08
  • POLITICAL SYSTEM -- LOOK, IF
  • 7:09
  • THERE'S ANYTHING WE ARE LIVING
  • 7:10
  • RIGHT NOW, IS THAT THE IMPACT
  • 7:11
  • OF BIG MONEY ON BOTH POLITICAL
  • 7:12
  • PARTIES.
  • 7:13
  • AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BY THE
  • 7:15
  • WAY, VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA
  • 7:19
  • HARRIS BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT THE
  • 7:21
  • NEED TO OVERTURN CITIZENS
  • 7:21
  • UNITED . THE DISASTROUS SUPREME
  • 7:27
  • COURT DECISION WHICH ALLOWED
  • 7:27
  • THE LEANERS TO POUR HUGE
  • 7:28
  • AMOUNTS OF MONEY INTO SUPER
  • 7:30
  • PACS, MOVE TO PUBLIC FUNDING OF
  • 7:39
  • ELECTIONS.
  • 7:40
  • I THINK THAT ISSUE, WHETHER YOU
  • 7:41
  • ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT OR
  • 7:42
  • INDEPENDENT, PEOPLE ARE NOT
  • 7:43
  • HAPPY.
  • 7:43
  • WHETHER IT'S WALL STREET,
  • 7:44
  • SILICON VALLEY, WHETHER IT'S
  • 7:44
  • PLAIN OLD BILLIONAIRES SPENDING
  • 7:45
  • HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY HELPING
  • 7:48
  • TO BUY CANDIDATES.
  • 7:49
  • THAT IS AN ISSUE I WOULD HOPE
  • 7:50
  • THE DEMOCRATS CAMPAIGN ON.
  • 7:59
  • >> HOW CAN SHE PROVE IT TO YOU,

  • 8:00
  • THAT SHE IS COMMITTED IN THE
  • 8:02
  • WAY YOU WOULD LIKE HER TO BE?
  • 8:03
  • WE WILL CHAT AGAIN.
  • 8:04
  • I HAVE KNOWN THE VICE PRESIDENT
  • 8:05
  • FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
  • 8:06
  • SHE AND I WERE BOTH CANDIDATES
  • 8:07
  • FOR PRESIDENT.
  • 8:08
  • WE SERVED IN THE SENATE.
  • 8:11
  • SHE IS AN EXTREMELY
  • 8:11
  • INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE
  • 8:12
  • INDIVIDUAL WHO I THINK WOULD
  • 8:13
  • MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT BUT MY
  • 8:19
  • GOAL NOW IS TO TRY TO RALLY THE
  • 8:21
  • DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO UNDERSTAND
  • 8:22
  • YES, WE ALL BELIEVE THAT WOMEN
  • 8:23
  • HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL
  • 8:24
  • THEIR OWN BODIES. THAT IS NOT
  • 8:28
  • WHAT REPUBLICANS BELIEVE.
  • 8:29
  • WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY.
  • 8:30
  • UNFORTUNATELY, MANY REPUBLICANS
  • 8:31
  • DO NOT.
  • 8:38
  • BUT WE HAVE GOT TO ALSO FOCUS
  • 8:39
  • ON THE REALITY THAT SO MANY
  • 8:41
  • PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY, WORKING-
  • 8:41
  • CLASS PEOPLE, ELDERLY, KIDS ARE
  • 8:43
  • STRUGGLING ECONOMICALLY IN THE
  • 8:44
  • RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY
  • 8:45
  • OF THE WORLD AND WE HAVE THE
  • 8:46
  • CORRUPT POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT
  • 8:50
  • IS DOMINATED BY BIG MONEY WHICH
  • 8:51
  • ENABLES THE PEOPLE ON TOP TO
  • 8:53
  • GET WHAT THEY WANT PAST IN
  • 8:55
  • CONGRESS AND WHAT I WANT TO SEE
  • 8:57
  • IS A CONGRESS, I KNOW IT'S A
  • 8:59
  • RADICAL IDEA, ACTUALLY

  • 9:00
  • REPRESENT ORDINARY PEOPLE
  • RATHER THAN JUST BILLIONAIRES.
  • >> FINAL QUESTION, SENATOR, ARE
  • YOU ALONE IN THIS, OR ARE THERE
  • OTHER PROGRESSIVES WHO WOULD
  • HOLD THE SAME VIEW YOU HAVE,
  • WHICH IS BASICALLY SHOW ME, AND
  • LET ME ALSO ADD, WHEN YOU SAY
  • THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS
  • TURNED ITS BACK ON WORKING
  • PEOPLE, DID YOU FIND ANYTHING
  • SIMILAR TO THAT MESSAGE AND JG
  • VARIANCES SPEECH?
  • IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ARGUMENT HE
  • WAS MAKING ABOUT HOW WASHINGTON
  • HAS ABANDONED WORKING PEOPLE.
  • >> WELL, THAT'S RIGHT, HE DID
  • MAKE OF YOU -- VIEWPOINTS,
  • WHICH ARE VALID.
  • I'M IN THE SENATE WITH MR.
  • VANCE.
  • THE MINIMUM WAGE TODAY AT THE
  • FEDERAL LEVEL IS $7.25 AN HOUR.

  • 10:02
  • THAT IS EMBARRASSING, THAT IS
  • ABSURD.
  • WE DO NOT HAVE ONE REPUBLICAN,
  • NOT ONE WHO WANTS TO RAISE THE
  • MINIMUM WAGE TO A LIVING WAGE.
  • MILLIONS OF WORKERS WOULD LIKE
  • TO JOIN UNIONS.
  • THEY ARE BEING COERCED AND
  • INTIMIDATED BY THEIR EMPLOYERS
  • BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE YOU
  • -- LEGAL PROTECTION.
  • WE DON'T HAVE ONE REPUBLICAN TO
  • 10:14
  • SUPPORT A STRONG PRO-ACT, NOT
  • ONE WHO WANTS TO EXPAND SOCIAL
  • SECURITY OR MEDICARE OR AT A
  • TIME ON THE RICH ARE DOING
  • PHENOMENALLY WELL, DEMAND THAT
  • THE WEALTHY ARE PAYING THEIR
  • FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
  • THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT HE IS
  • SAYING, AS HE IS IN A PARTY,
  • WHICH DESPITE SOME RHETORIC, IS
  • BACKING THE NEEDS OF THE WILL
  • GIVES --


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