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All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl This episode is sponsored by… https://oneskin.co Code: PoliticsGirl https://lumen.me/politicsgirl And the Vibes Only podcast: https://couriernewsroom.com/vibes-onl... 0:00 so the the realities are have changed the Dynamics of this race in the last 18 hours where if you go on social media Trump you know rage tweeting at two in the morning tells you he's he's this hurts he he doesn't know what to do with 0:18 this and we can get into whether not 0:21 there'll be a debate I don't think there 0:23 will be how this is going to play out in 0:25 terms of who she ultimately picks to go 0:28 up against JD van uh I think that will 0:31 be an important decision but just what 0:34 Joe bidon did in placing his impr promat 0:37 on her candidacy for the presidency 0:40 changed the trajectory of this 0:44 [Music] 0:52 race hello and welcome to the politics 0:54 girl podcast I'm your host Lee mwan 0:56 let's get into it so the podcast I had 0:59 scheduled for today obviously had to be 1:01 moved since the breaking news on the 1:02 weekend of President Biden dropping out 1:04 of the presidential race to talk to us 1:07 today about what it means as both an 1:08 outsider and an Insider I am joined by 1:11 former RNC chair and co-host of the new 1:14 MSNBC show the weekend Michael steel 1:17 Michael is the former lieutenant 1:18 governor of Maryland who was the 1:19 incredible successful leader of the 1:21 Republican National Committee in the 1:23 days before Trump gave it to his family 1:25 breaking fundraising records and winning 1:27 the biggest pick of House Seats for the 1:29 party in modern hist history his 1:30 leadership produced 12 Republican 1:32 governorships and the greatest share of 1:34 State Legislative seats since 1928 so 1:37 this man understands what it takes to 1:39 pick a candidate run a successful 1:41 convention and turn a game around so 1:44 without further Ado please welcome my 1:46 guest former chair of the RNC host of 1:48 the Michael steel podcast and co-host of 1:50 msnbc's the weekend Michael steel thank 1:53 you for coming Michael I just love 1:55 hanging with you I so excited to be back 1:59 in neighborhood thank you so much uh lee 2:02 for having me appreciate it oh well 2:04 thanks for coming I mean I honestly I'm 2:06 sitting here I'm looking at you and I 2:08 can't believe I'm going to do this but 2:09 I'm gonna quote Vladimir Lennon right 2:11 now uh who's you know Steve bannon's 2:13 favorite guy but I can't stop thinking 2:15 of the quote that's attributed to him 2:17 which is there are decades where nothing 2:19 happens and then there are weeks where 2:21 decades happen and I kind of feel like 2:23 that's where we are right now ah that is 2:26 that is such actually it's a very apropo 2:29 quote qu um which runs along uh and 2:33 aligns with the old Chinese proverb may 2:36 you live in interesting times um and 2:39 what people don't understand about that 2:42 quote is about that proverb it is a 2:44 curse it's not a blessing it is not 2:46 something that people like oh you know 2:48 may you live in interesting times where 2:50 things are no this is like interesting 2:52 times are not 2:54 good um and and we we see this alignment 2:58 where you know decades are getting 3:01 played out literally in weeks and and 3:04 even in some cases 24-hour news Cycles 3:08 um and these times have been interesting 3:11 since about January of 3:13 2017 um when the former president of the 3:16 United States Donald Trump took to the 3:19 uh the national and Global stage and 3:22 painted a dystopian view of America and 3:25 the world in his inaugural inaugural 3:28 speech for people no this is the 3:30 American Carnage speech the American 3:32 Carnage American Carnage The American 3:34 Carnage speech um and we have been 3:38 navigating through that ever since and 3:41 what is still stunning to me is that 3:44 people in the political class as well as 3:47 the as the media class have not figured 3:49 out what this is there are so many signs 3:53 where they still try to treat this 3:56 period and this particular candidate now 3:59 running for for election again to the 4:01 presidency um as normal and as any other 4:06 candidate and so both you know that 4:09 proverb and that lenen quote 4:12 encapsulates uh this moment where the 4:16 country is really at a Crossroads um 4:20 that sit on a precipice and and it's 4:22 it's really going to be a challenge to 4:25 have the right framing of of America to 4:29 figure out 4:30 what the next step is because that next 4:32 step can either take you further down a 4:34 road or off a cliff yeah I often say you 4:39 know that scene in the movie where like 4:41 the car is teetering on the cliff where 4:43 everyone in the car is trying to lean 4:44 backwards and make sure that it doesn't 4:46 go over I'm like literally that's where 4:48 the country is and we all have to lean 4:50 the same direction to not only get the 4:52 car back on Solid Ground and then set a 4:56 a stronger straighter direction for 4:58 where we want to go but we are right at 5:00 that precipice right now and people need 5:02 to understand that I often say like 5:03 please can we just live in a precedented 5:06 time for once just like be calm for 5:09 crying out like just give me some 5:10 precedent like that's all I want right 5:12 now you know can we just live in an age 5:15 where it's just 5:16 boring it's boring I want to wake up in 5:19 the morning and be like what's the 5:20 weather not like God what happened you 5:23 know like it's just exhausting um so 5:25 listen for those of you who might have 5:27 been on vacation or you know missed it 5:29 somehow we found out on Sunday um from 5:33 what felt from the outside like a 5:35 full-on shanking of the pundry and donor 5:38 class with kind of an assist from the 5:40 media that our current successful 5:42 sitting president will be stepping away 5:44 from running um uh for president uh in 5:48 2024 and we will have a new Democratic 5:50 Presidential nominee now I'm not going 5:51 to bother to go into any more detail or 5:54 give my opinions or thoughts about this 5:56 move because honestly at this point it 5:57 doesn't really matter what's done is 5:58 done the the president has made his 6:00 decision and he did it in the right 6:02 amount of time before the convention and 6:04 now we have to Pivot and win against the 6:07 existential threat that is the Trump 6:09 Vance project 2025 uh ticket um so do 6:12 you have any thoughts on that uh on the 6:15 how it all happened before we sort of 6:17 leave that part of the conversation 6:19 you're like no Lee I have no thoughts at 6:21 all no I I'm nothing to say on that no I 6:25 no Z zero to say I've had a lot to say 6:28 on that um and 6:30 was very clear in what I thought was an 6:35 abuse of against the the the President 6:39 Joe Biden by his own party um there were 6:44 there were ways in which this could have 6:46 been done um cleaner uh more quiet um 6:52 and uh with a sense of difference um it 6:57 is one thing I mean folks you just need 6:59 to understand and and I've been in this 7:00 space so I know I know a lot of how Joe 7:04 Biden looked at this and how he felt 7:06 about it um when people that you have 7:10 helped get out of jams similar jams 7:13 Nancy Pelosi um and um have been aligned 7:18 with 7:19 suddenly um saying these nice things 7:23 about you as they're taking the uh the 7:26 knife and pushing it deeper into you 7:29 Year back so I had a problem with that 7:31 because and largely because I you know 7:33 I'm a chairman you know I I run parties 7:36 from at every level of our political 7:40 structure and the one thing you're 7:42 always concerned about is your base um 7:45 and what actions do to move your base 7:49 into the game or move your base away 7:52 from the game and with the fixation on 7:55 donors which you know the major donors 7:58 they were a big driver in this the base 8:01 was not uh the political Elites were a 8:04 big drivers in this the base was not and 8:07 the political electeds were a big driver 8:10 in this the base was not so you you have 8:12 to be concerned about how this is 8:14 resonating with them after that debate 8:17 by Saturday the the Democratic base 8:20 Consolidated around Joe Biden how do we 8:23 know that because he did not lose any 8:25 ground significant ground in the polling 8:28 um Joe Biden um was uh four points down 8:33 uh before the debate by that Tuesday he 8:36 was six points down after the debate uh 8:40 as of the day he left he was within a 8:44 point or two on the national average um 8:47 so there was clearly not this wholesale 8:50 oh my God hair on fire run away from Joe 8:53 Biden uh in polling that showed 75% of 8:56 those polled said Joe Biden should not 8:59 be the the nominee of the democratic 9:00 party when asked who they would vote for 9:03 for between Biden and Trump because 9:05 that's the ticket um 45 45 so again he 9:11 had he was competitive competitive so my 9:14 concern was where they would go where 9:16 where they 9:17 landed was a better place because of how 9:21 Joe Biden decided to exit and right he 9:24 did so in a way in which he did two 9:27 things acknowledge what every one had 9:29 been saying okay I realize that that I 9:32 you know there there's no pathway for me 9:35 to to win this but then to embrace his 9:38 vice president as the The Heir parent if 9:41 you will and people hate that 9:42 terminology but that's come on let's go 9:44 with it um because that's essentially 9:46 what it is um he he endorsed kamla 9:49 Harris and that then as you saw Le 9:53 ignited a 9:55 fervor um with the base which donated an 9:58 unprecedent amount of cash within five 10:01 hours $27 million within five hours well 10:04 over 50 million um dollars in counting 10:08 um in the hours after that and then of 10:11 course the consolidation of those three 10:14 classes the the donor class is still 10:16 hanging out there so let's set them 10:17 aside for a moment but the political 10:19 let's set them aside for forever 10:23 right well you know what it's a quick 10:25 sidebar on that you make an excellent 10:28 point because 10:30 what you saw happen after Joe Biden 10:33 stepped aside and and and endorsed kamla 10:36 was what I realized um the strength of 10:40 the party was in 2010 when the donor 10:43 class decided to push me aside and and 10:47 to follow the likes of Carl Rove and and 10:50 others to their to their super packs and 10:52 didn't want to give to the the RNC for 10:55 the first time we set up our own small 10:57 dollar donor program BAS based off of 11:00 Barack Obama's um um effort in his 2008 11:05 and uh campaign um and his Obama for 11:09 America uh campaign where it was largely 11:12 driven by small dollar donors and we 11:14 raised o within 18 months well over $120 11:19 million from small dollar donors to a 11:22 total of 192 million when the big 11:24 dollars came back when they thought oh 11:26 yeah now it looks like we're going to 11:27 win then they showed up but you make a 11:30 good point about the power of small 11:32 dollar donations in driving elections 11:35 and those are the dollars that that 11:38 candidates and campaigns Listen to 11:41 Because when Grandma says here put $20 a 11:43 month on my credit card for your 11:45 campaign that carries a lot more weight 11:49 than um having you know a a a 11:52 multi-billion dollar donor WR you know 11:55 stro strike you a big check why because 11:59 there there's there's only one of those 12:00 multi or three of those multi-million 12:02 doll billion dollar donors there are 12:04 hundreds of thousands of grandmas out 12:07 there uh and they vote and they vote so 12:10 you make an excellent point there and I 12:11 think you saw um that 12:15 consolidation uh happened in a way that 12:19 rejuvenated the the core of the base 12:22 around the idea of winning again not 12:24 that they didn't think they could win 12:25 with Joe Biden but the energy level is 12:28 different because a a number of those 12:30 folks in the Coalition young voters 12:32 Progressive voters um uh are likely now 12:36 to Rally around kamla uh in a way that 12:40 some thought would be a little bit more 12:42 difficult with Joe 12:43 Biden yeah well I mean I think often in 12:47 some ways it's a self-fulfilling 12:49 prophecy if you tell people over and 12:50 over and over again that Joe Biden can't 12:52 win that he's too old that he can't do 12:54 anything then every single thing he says 12:56 and does is going to seem old or 12:58 whatever when 12:59 I kept thinking the contrast between Joe 13:02 Biden and the other presidential 13:04 candidate I mean he's way more 13:06 incoherent he's just as old his policies 13:09 are horrifying it's terrible for women 13:12 it's terrible for immigrants it's 13:13 terrible for the lgbtq community there 13:15 were so many things to run on that 13:16 weren't the man right and so to me it 13:20 seemed like it was a terrible way to 13:22 take him out I thought it was classless 13:24 I thought it was done incredibly poorly 13:27 of course at the end of the day I think 13:28 it is absolutely amazing that Joe Biden 13:30 himself is the one that raised the 13:32 quality in the room the way he left he 13:35 he did it again he brought class back to 13:38 America he allowed us to Rally around I 13:41 I think the whole concept which I think 13:43 we should talk about a little bit later 13:44 of an open convention is idiotic I think 13:47 it is comma period the end let us rally 13:50 let us be excited like you said the 13:52 young people are thrilled I've been 13:54 saying this for years like there's a lot 13:55 of Old Guard people that are like I 13:57 don't know a woman leading us the kids 14:00 they don't feel like that they do not 14:02 feel like that they are absolutely 14:04 jazzed by her and uh and she is a 14:07 Powerhouse and I've been saying that for 14:09 years too if you knew more about her you 14:11 would be less scared of Joe Biden's age 14:13 and now Joe Biden's age is off the table 14:16 and I think the question becomes who who 14:19 who they culminate around her and whom 14:22 because I don't think is another can I 14:24 can I peel back a little bit on a point 14:26 you just made about young voters I I 14:28 think think it's very important there 14:31 let's just let's just set on the table a 14:34 truth that we don't like to acknowledge 14:36 uh about us and by us I mean US country 14:39 is that we are still we are very 14:42 misogynistic um as a nation you saw some 14:45 of that play out at the RNC convention 14:48 where you had that you know sort of um 14:51 you know uh testosterone Laden uh sort 14:55 of 14:56 presentation um that really 14:59 was offensive I mean having it it's a 15:02 man's world be a theme song um it it 15:06 just it's it spoke it spoke to a lot of 15:09 the wrong stuff right in my view well if 15:11 I may Michael this is the most 15:13 anti-woman ticket in American history 15:16 between Trump and Vance they they 15:18 genuinely hate women genuinely have zero 15:22 respect for us and the fact that these 15:24 attitudes are now out here that view 15:26 women um at in a nin a 1950s lens where 15:30 they're at home with an apron waiting 15:32 for hubby to come in so that they can 15:35 you know make them comfortable serve 15:37 them a cocktail before dinner put their 15:39 feet up um the children come in Oh Daddy 15:41 Oh Daddy it's so good to see you I'm so 15:44 glad you're home and he's the quote man 15:46 of the house well that that home never 15:49 existed in America it has never existed 15:51 it was created by uh commercial by ad ad 15:55 gurus in the 1950s it it never existed 15:59 wholesale sale of the American dream 16:01 exactly so you have you have this sort 16:03 of notion of manhood in you know this 16:08 this sort of jacked up 16:10 environment and then you have this this 16:12 this idea about a female candidate 16:16 running for office and how that's viewed 16:19 through those lenses and what's 16:21 interesting about the point you made 16:23 about young voters is go back to 16:26 Hillary's run in 2016 16:29 those young voters who are going to play 16:32 in this cycle were about 13 14 15 years 16:37 old at the time and their numbers were 16:40 not in a way that would have any real 16:43 impact today that's not the case so they 16:46 have they have watched the four years of 16:49 the misogyny the grabing by the pee the 16:53 you know the the the pronouncements by 16:55 Donald Trump against women of color 16:58 women in power uh through whether it's 17:02 an April Ryan in um a press briefing or 17:06 you know any other woman who challenges 17:10 his quote manhood yeah like when he was 17:13 running for president in the first place 17:14 and he said who would listen to that 17:16 face right he's been doing that stuff 17:19 for years calling us pigs and dogs and 17:22 then on top of that you take away our 17:24 rights and I think that young women have 17:26 absolutely freaking had it and I think 17:28 Young men understand enough that this is 17:30 not the world that they mostly want to 17:32 live in either unless they are weak men 17:34 who uh can't live in a world in which 17:37 equality exists and that's its own 17:39 incell community and that steroid and 17:42 you know latent 17:44 testosterone is is uh what is prevalent 17:48 on the right those young women and men 17:54 are now 18 19 years old and they will be 17:58 V voting for the first time for 18:00 president and I think having someone 18:03 like a kamla Harris at the top of the 18:05 ticket on the Democratic side does 18:08 change this landscape considerably 18:10 because those voters those younger 18:12 voters don't come into the game with 18:15 those 1950 views that were passed down 18:19 generationally and that still permeate 18:21 at some level with some of the some of 18:23 their cohorts as a matter of fact 18:25 because they grew up in these households 18:27 and that d damic I think is going to be 18:30 one that's going to be very interesting 18:31 to watch um play out both along the 18:34 lines of race and along the lines of 18:38 gender and since they both culminate 18:41 with kamla U and by the way folks on the 18:44 right on my party learn how to say her 18:46 name because we get the gaslighting that 18:50 you're doing when you call her something 18:52 other than her name is it's Kamala all 18:56 right put the accent on the right 18:58 salable you'll be okay um so the the 19:02 realities are have changed the Dynamics 19:05 of this race in the last 18 hours where 19:09 if you go on social media Trump you know 19:12 rage tweeting at two in the morning 19:14 tells you he's he's this hurts he he 19:18 doesn't know what to do with this and we 19:21 can get into whether not there'll be a 19:23 debate I don't think there will be how 19:25 this is going to play out in terms of 19:27 who she ultimately picked 19:29 to go up against JD Vance uh I think 19:31 that will be an important decision but 19:34 just what Joe bidon did in placing his 19:37 inomata on her candidacy for the 19:40 presidency changed the trajectory of 19:42 this race I completely agree I 19:45 completely agree with that and I have to 19:47 say it was very hopeful seeing the 19:49 amount of people who rallied around the 19:51 idea because I have always loved her I 19:53 know the young people love her but it 19:54 was great to see you know party chairs 19:57 uh delegates from different states 19:59 anyone that might have been an absolute 20:01 competitor for her right away coming out 20:03 to endorse her I thought these were 20:05 really good things let's just quickly 20:06 back it up so people understand um as 20:09 much as most of us wanted and this the 20:12 ticket doesn't automatically go to uh 20:15 vice president kamla Harris so correct 20:18 me if I'm wrong but I'm just going to 20:19 say this is what is going to happen now 20:21 the Democratic party can either hold 20:23 what's called a mini primary um in the 20:25 next few weeks where lots of different 20:27 people throw their hat in the ring and 20:30 most likely the party officials not the 20:31 voters would decide who the nominee 20:33 would be or everyone rallies around the 20:35 same candidate that person goes into the 20:37 Convention as the deao nominee which is 20:39 what I think is happening now with comma 20:42 or they wait until the convention and 20:44 they have all the delegates released 20:46 from their responsibility to vote for 20:48 Biden Harris um and then the delegates 20:50 would vote for their choice which would 20:52 be considered an open convention uh we 20:55 would not have consensus on that first 20:57 vote so then we would have a second vote 20:59 which would include uh what are called 21:01 superdelegates which the party leaders 21:03 come in the Republicans don't have 21:05 superdelegates the Democrats do and they 21:07 would be joining in the votes and then 21:09 it would be more of a brokered 21:10 convention sense where the powers that 21:12 be kind of got to make a bunch of 21:15 consolidations and backro Deals and who 21:17 they thought would have the best chance 21:18 when they put their votes into the Hat 21:20 regardless of all how how all this 21:22 happens the new nominee will be chosen 21:26 officially at the Democratic Convention 21:28 in Chicago which starts on August 19th 21:31 now did I get that incorrect what are 21:33 your thoughts on you got that right I I 21:35 would just uh flesh out so people know 21:38 what a who a superdelegate is a 21:40 superdelegate are elected officials 21:42 basically it's the 21:44 governor right former actually is in 21:47 there people like that so there's about 21:49 400 of those um there are 700 21:52 approximately 700 uncommitted uh 21:55 delegates which is a big number um 21:59 Joe Biden has about 22:01 3980 some some number like that of the 22:04 delegates um which is well more than he 22:08 than he needs yeah it's a vast majority 22:10 it's about 88% of the delegates right so 22:12 so in the three scenarios that you laid 22:15 out the first one uh where the party 22:18 officials decide who um the uh 22:22 individual be that's largely a brokered 22:24 convention that's sort of the back room 22:26 everybody kind of Brokers a deal to to 22:28 put someone forward and it's the old 22:31 school way of doing it when people think 22:32 of like old men in back rooms cigar 22:34 chomping deciding on who it's going to 22:36 be right and the third way you described 22:38 it where it's much more of an open 22:41 free-for-all no one's committed to 22:43 anyone Joe Biden's released his 22:46 delegates and they're just kind of free 22:47 to roam the range until they decide 22:50 where they land and then in that process 22:53 you may have some brokering um that 22:56 occurs uh to sort of narrow and control 22:59 um the flow of things those two 23:02 scenarios are 23:05 problematic um in the first uh the 23:08 delegates don't have a role to play the 23:10 14 million uh citizens who voted in the 23:12 primaries are largely ignored that 23:15 creates a a real problem for the party 23:20 because of the way the Democrats are 23:23 structurally organized and and 23:25 emotionally connected to the process it 23:28 would be a mess the third scenario is 23:31 also a mess because you can't control it 23:34 uh then it's everybody in the pool kamla 23:37 is no different than than uh Pete Buddha 23:40 judge in terms of elect viability and 23:43 electability among the delegates and 23:46 that just turns into a free-for-all that 23:49 you don't you can't control and you 23:50 don't know how many days it's going to 23:52 go Etc and they all end up attacking 23:55 each other and we do damage to ourselves 23:56 ex exactly the the the middle route is 23:59 where this is likely to land and makes 24:01 the most sense where Joe Biden and you 24:05 see this already by his placing his 24:08 hands on her you already have now five 24:11 states I think maybe six states that 24:14 have already announced that their 24:17 delegation of delegates are all voting 24:21 for kamla Harris so they've committed 24:24 their delegates going into the process 24:27 um uh to 24:29 there's also under DNC rules they're 24:32 going to be hosting I believe on the 7th 24:36 7th of um August somewhere around there 24:40 a um a a basically a nominating process 24:45 a virtual nominating process and in that 24:48 process that's where those delegates 24:51 that Joe Biden has are going to transfer 24:55 to uh kamla and that process is what 24:58 you're seeing happen lay out already by 25:01 those States coming out early and saying 25:03 hey we're committing to kamla our 13 25:06 delegates our 27 delegates our 50 25:09 delegates whatever the number is so 25:11 she's already now got committed to her 25:14 delegates going into that and likely 25:16 you'll see uh lee over the next uh three 25:19 to five days more States go down that 25:22 pathway and so she'll walk into that 25:24 convention probably with all the 25:26 delegates she'll need on the first 25:28 ballot yeah I think that's great and I 25:30 think the other thing we have to know is 25:31 that KLA Harris is the only person that 25:34 would have full access to the money 25:36 that's already been raised for the Biden 25:38 campaign because of campaign Finance 25:41 rules she's already on that ticket and 25:44 it's at least $100 million and that's 25:46 not including the money that was raised 25:47 the day that she announced she would be 25:49 running if Biden has stepped down and he 25:51 endorses her she has full access to that 25:53 money which is a very necessary thing to 25:55 run a campaign and if the nominee ended 25:57 up being some and else that person would 25:59 not have access to that money they would 26:01 most likely have to start their 26:02 fundraising from scratch I don't know 26:03 how the de Democrats would plan to get 26:05 money back to people who had donated to 26:07 what they would do what they would do 26:09 there is that's Federal dollar those are 26:11 federal dollars and they're very 26:13 stringent uh restrictions on how those 26:15 dollars can be used and who can use them 26:18 and how they're applied so if for 26:21 example he did not transfer that money 26:25 to KLA in other words he didn't want her 26:28 to have it or however that may work out 26:31 those dollars would go to the DNC and 26:33 then the DNC would be further restricted 26:36 in how it could allocate those money so 26:39 to your initial point that $100 million 26:42 for any other candidate would be wholly 26:46 unaccessible and to the extent that they 26:48 get any of it what they would get would 26:50 come from the DNC and it would be a very 26:52 very small portion compared to the100 26:54 million that kamla would get by virtue 26:57 of already being named on that account 27:00 under Biden uh Harris what they did and 27:03 you saw this yesterday they went back 27:06 amended their FEC their Federal Election 27:09 Commission forms to take off Joe Biden 27:13 so Biden Harris 2024 is now Harris fill 27:17 in the blank to be determined 2024 and 27:21 soon as that VP is identified their 27:24 names will be add a form will be further 27:26 amended to add that individual's name so 27:30 that is the chain of custody for that 27:31 money from Biden to Harris all within 27:36 the FEC rules so when you hear 27:39 Republicans out here talking about some 27:41 violation of the FEC law the idea that 27:45 because Joe Biden has decided not to run 27:48 he now must resign the presidency 27:51 because he was 27:53 not Michael it's so ridiculous I I mean 27:57 come on it's he he didn't he's just like 28:01 hey I'm not going to run for a second 28:02 term there's no rule that says you have 28:03 to run for a second term or step down as 28:05 president in fact it is better now you 28:08 have a man fullon running the country 28:11 not distracted at all dealing with the 28:13 problems of America a man being the 28:15 president and a woman running for the 28:17 president those are two completely 28:18 different jobs and guess what we 28:20 actually are in a better situation the 28:22 idea that he would have to step down the 28:25 idea I'm sorry your old party has lost 28:27 it completely but let me tell you you 28:30 know what 25th 28:33 amendment but let me tell you why 28:35 they're so stupid so let me get this 28:38 straight you want Joe Biden to now step 28:41 down as president thereby making K har 28:46 the president so now you've just given 28:49 the country the first black female 28:51 president right so she's not longer 28:54 she's no longer running as a candidate 28:56 she's running as the cumbent president 28:59 for election 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33:12 do you know this past week leading up to 33:15 critical elections where democracy is on 33:17 the line there has never been a better 33:19 time to listen or subscribe to Vibes 33:20 only and you can do that wherever you 33:22 get your podcast check it out because 33:25 those Courier people really have our 33:27 backs when comes to truth and facts 33:30 Vibes 33:31 only so fixated on race and gender and 33:36 and so fixated on on this idea of 33:40 somehow getting rid of Joe Biden 33:42 thinking they're going to mix up the the 33:45 process and make it harder they lose 33:48 sight of the fact that what they're 33:49 asking for will actually make it easier 33:51 for her because yeah if Joe Biden 33:53 resigns as president she becomes a 33:55 president she appoints a vice president 33:57 and mov on so then she goes into the 33:59 Convention as an incumbent president 34:01 running for election 34:03 hello the country now will see you think 34:06 that's a worse situation for the country 34:09 so it's it's just I don't I don't 34:11 understand how they how they rationalize 34:13 these things but yeah it makes you kind 34:14 of fall out laugh because it's so so 34:16 stupid well I think honestly the the 34:19 Republicans in many cases uh because 34:22 their hate and their bigotry is so 34:25 strong it often blinds them from proper 34:27 decision-making I think you know what 34:29 happened with row it was the dog that 34:31 caught the car I feel like what happened 34:32 with this it's the dog that caught the 34:34 car I saw Steven Miller and measur 34:36 against like kellyan Conway losing it on 34:40 television yesterday literally losing it 34:42 talking about how it's so unfair to 34:44 Democratic primary voters that they're 34:46 going to get disenfranchised and I was 34:47 like your entire plan for the election 34:49 of 2024 not to mention the entire plan 34:52 for the election of 2020 was to 34:54 disenfranchise all voters and definitely 34:57 Democrat they wanted to disenfranchise 34:59 voters in Detroit in 2020 I mean just 35:02 throw the votes away and in Philadelphia 35:05 wherever there were large black 35:06 population centers in 2020 Kelly Conway 35:10 and her ilk were running around talking 35:12 about those votes needed to be 35:14 discounted because it was clearly fraud 35:17 in the black community that supported 35:20 the the Democratic candidate so we can't 35:22 we we have to Discount those votes so 35:25 don't come crying to me about your 35:26 concern for the 14 million Democrats who 35:29 voted in the in the primary for Joe 35:32 Biden being disenfranchised those folks 35:34 are good they like the outcome here 35:36 trust me they're okay well also those 35:38 folks those folks you know like I'm one 35:40 of those folks and those folks voted for 35:42 a Biden Harris ticket if Harris remains on the ticket we got what we wanted in many cases so like what other tricks do you think the Republicans have up their sleeve because I think we need to tell people who are worried there is no legal reason uh whatsoever to keep the Democratic ticket off the ballot Biden is making decisions now which looks like 36:00 it gives them plenty of time to get in all 50 states at the earliest deadline appears to be August 21st which is Montana and Oklahoma I know that speaker Johnson and The Heritage Foundation are already talking about legal challenges there are definitely 50 pieces to this puzzle with 50 different states having 36:17 50 different um ideas there was a lot of 36:19 talk about Georgia recently um and just 36:21 so people understand Biden dropping out 36:24 will not impact Georgia ballots if the 36:27 Democrats have uh their convention 36:29 there's no nominee to replace it looks 36:31 like it's going to be comma and if it 36:33 isn't comma um Trump fans are going to 36:35 be on the ticket in in Georgia along 36:37 with Oliver for the Libertarians Jill 36:40 Stein for the greens and also 36:43 potentially Cornell West RFK and Claudia 36:45 Dilla Cruz who are having their 36:47 signatures reviewed so just FYI Georgia 36:49 you might have seven presidential 36:50 candidates on your ballot and the only 36:52 ticket really to vote for is the 36:54 Democrats or you're going to get Donald 36:55 Trump so I would be very careful with a 36:57 third party vote right now but what else 36:59 do you think your party has up its 37:01 sleeves um to screw with the Democratic 37:03 ticket that I think that that's an 37:05 important piece and and there gets into 37:07 questions of you know standing and 37:10 whether or not Republicans have any 37:11 standing to complain about what H what 37:14 the Democrats decide to do with their 37:18 with their ballots that if you know a 37:20 Democrat decides to make that case 37:22 that's a different conversation but a 37:24 lot of that is just noise and uh sign 37:27 signifying uh stupidity U by Republicans 37:30 and thinking that people are going to 37:32 fall for that the other thing I think is 37:34 important to understand though is can I 37:37 just cut you off for for a second there 37:38 people are going to fall for that I 37:39 think the biggest concern for people is 37:41 that it's not that that there isn't 37:44 legal standing to put whoever the 37:46 Democrats Democrats haven't even had 37:47 their convention yet they should be able 37:48 to say here are our nominees they're 37:50 going on the ballot there should be no 37:52 legal challenge I think people's concern 37:54 is that of course that makes sense 37:57 except we live in a world with the fifth 37:59 circuit with um what's her name down in 38:01 Florida with the Supreme Court the way 38:03 it is and we go hey man uh justice isn't 38:06 what it's supposed to be it's not about 38:08 what's fair what's legal what's 38:10 Justified it's what the Republicans can 38:12 get the judge to say and I think that's 38:14 what people are concerned about um 38:16 because of course there's legal standing 38:18 to have the the Democratic candidate on 38:20 the ballot our question is will it get 38:22 up to the Supreme Court where Clarence 38:24 and Alo are like yeah you know what like 38:27 actually the Democrats don't get on the 38:29 ballot in Ohio or Wisconsin or Nevada 38:32 you know like is that a possibility I 38:34 think that's what I'm not going to lie 38:36 to you yeah it is I mean there's there's 38:38 no there's no telling which direction 38:42 this could fall um if legal challenges 38:45 are are pursued and then you get into 38:49 the appeals process based off of the 38:52 decision if a lower court says you know 38:55 Republicans get the hell out of here 38:57 then they appeal up to uh the particular 39:00 circuit and then then there may be some 39:01 Forum Shopping meaning they'll look for 39:03 a more favorable circuit to go to um and 39:07 and then yeah you could see this stair 39:09 step up to the Supreme Court uh I think 39:12 though in the main that's likely not 39:15 going to happen uh with respect to the 39:18 ballot challenges because as long as as 39:22 long as the Democrats with this change 39:24 over make their deadlines yeah fast they 39:27 have to do it fast right they have to do 39:29 it fast but as long as that happens 39:31 that's why they're doing the virtual 39:33 nominating process like they did under 39:36 in 20 with Co like you saw the 39:39 Republicans do it on the first night 39:40 when they got into the convention hall 39:43 Democrats know because of the the 39:45 timeliness the 21st of August being one 39:48 of the first states where you've got to 39:49 have everything locked in to get that 39:52 done sooner so if there are any issues 39:54 you can get them cleaned up before the 39:56 21st of August um especially since a 39:59 handful of states start voting in early 40:02 to mid-september correct that's correct 40:05 and so that's a big part of it but the 40:06 other side of this uh I think is it's 40:10 not so much what the Republican party is 40:13 doing folks need to pay closer attention 40:16 to what their state and local Boards of 40:18 elections are are and how they're 40:21 preparing because what we had did not 40:24 pay a lot of attention to since 2022 40:28 um and certainly since 24 at the 40:30 presidential level is the number of Maga 40:33 who are now on these boards and who have 40:36 now uh you know are members of these 40:39 boards who will gum up works there was a 40:42 strategic decision made after 20 to make 40:46 sure to have in place people who would 40:50 be more friendly to them that happened 40:53 at the Electoral level meaning Boards of 40:55 Elections as well as the judicial there 40:57 are a lot more Eileen cannons out there 41:00 than we may realize um that were 41:02 appointed wholly 41:04 incompetent individuals serving on the 41:07 judicial bench who are there and would 41:10 would more like we've seen with e Canon 41:12 which you know many of us were saying 41:14 from the very first moments of this 41:15 trial uh on these documents that her 41:19 whole game plan was going to be Trump 41:21 aligned and she would slow roll this 41:23 thing for as long as she could and then 41:26 Clarence Thomas gave her the one little 41:29 platform in in a dissenting opinion it 41:31 wasn't even a majority opinion um in a 41:35 footnote uh in that opinion that oh well 41:39 you know the special counsel probably is 41:41 illegal well that's all I need to know 41:43 case dismissed so yeah we we have to be 41:47 much more Vigilant because the rot is 41:49 real the corruption is ongoing um and so 41:53 the process of this election is not just 41:57 a about the head-to-head between KLA and 41:59 Trump but now also what we see playing 42:03 out uh at ballot boxes down down ballot 42:06 and certainly with the counting of votes 42:09 and things like that there was a reason 42:11 why they bragged about having 42:13 50,000 uh poll Watchers poll Watchers um 42:18 and election officials in strategic 42:21 Battleground locations precincts to make 42:24 sure they have a hand in getting the 42:27 outcome they want the cheating is not 42:30 coming as in all the cases that have 42:32 been prosecuted for cheating the vast 42:35 majority of those who've been caught 42:36 have been Republicans trying to cheat 42:38 the system in the 22 cycle in the 20 42:41 Cycle in the 16 cycle Etc uh heritage's 42:45 own study of election fraud in this 42:48 country get this between 42:52 2003 and 42:54 2023 20year span right 42:57 of election fraud how many cases did 42:59 they identify 1,800 how many of those 43:02 were actually prosecuted about half how 43:05 many of those led to convictions about a 43:08 third in other words out of all the 43:11 elections between 2020 2003 and 2023 you 43:16 have 18 identifiable prosecutable cases 43:20 of fraud what does that tell you about 43:22 our election system it's very safe very 43:25 safe so watch for those things to happen 43:29 pay attention to uh what your boards of 43:32 elections are doing the people who are 43:34 showing up on Election Day all those 43:37 things will matter in this cycle because 43:40 I I fear A disruption of the process 43:44 intimidation to disrupt the process to 43:48 cause the delay in processing of votes 43:51 will certainly be the order of the day 43:53 this has always been the plan this has 43:55 always been the plan whether it was Joe 43:56 Biden or K harrris the plan was election 43:59 suppression you know then election 44:02 vigilantism you know going to those 44:03 dropboxes in Arizona with your gun and 44:05 intimidating people intimidating poll 44:07 workers making sure people don't want to 44:09 work at the polls um uh challenging 44:13 votes after they've been made signature 44:15 matching you know being really Vigilant 44:17 with what kind of ID counts this has 44:20 always been the plan and it doesn't 44:22 matter who the Democratic candidate is 44:23 the Republican plan is to stop people 44:26 from voting or stop votes from Counting 44:28 not to win more votes and win hearts and 44:30 Minds it has always been to get less 44:33 votes so before I have you go I just 44:35 would love to know your thoughts on 44:38 because I believe the candidate is kamla 44:40 so who do you think should run with her 44:42 who do you think adds the most to the 44:44 ticket and what are your thoughts on the 44:46 potential running so I have I have two 44:50 uh two favors retired Admiral mccraven 44:54 who is well regarded um not just in 44:59 military circles but in civilian circles 45:02 as well and um having having sort of a 45:07 military uh guy W with with her I think 45:11 uh Shores up some you know foreign 45:14 policy concerns people have although 45:16 you've got to admit that she has done a 45:19 good job um in handling her assignments 45:24 overseas um yeah no she's had a Master 45:26 Class International Affairs over the 45:28 past four years yeah she really has and 45:31 and I think that's made a difference for 45:33 a lot of a lot of folks um to watch her 45:36 kind of step into that space uh sitting 45:39 at the table with heads of States I mean 45:41 even during the recent NATO meetings uh 45:44 she met um she had what they call 45:47 bilateral uh conversations with a number 45:50 of heads of States um and and I think 45:53 that that made um uh a real impression 45:57 on a lot of the the foreign heads of 45:59 States um but I I think someone like you 46:02 know a fourstar Admiral uh like mccraven 46:06 uh who again straddles both spaces he's 46:09 got mad respect on Capitol Hill he's got 46:12 mad respect um among civilian uh 46:15 operations around the the country the 46:18 business Community they are familiar 46:20 with him he was uh the commander of the 46:23 US Special Operations and and so he has 46:26 a a a large overview of how government 46:30 and military operations align and work 46:33 and of course has great uh respect and 46:35 regard overseas so that's a possibility 46:37 if they're looking for a military figure 46:40 but I think my favorite uh would be 46:42 Senator Mark 46:44 Kelly um I like Mark Kelly a lot uh 46:47 Gabby gford his wife um just so people 46:50 know Senator Mark Kelly is the senator 46:52 from Arizona senator from Arizona he was 46:54 an astronaut astronaut um his wife is a 46:58 is a friend of mine uh we we are Rodell 47:02 fellows together um in fact in her first 47:05 year um in Rodell with us uh she was 47:08 shot while campaigning um for election 47:12 and um severely wounded survived 47:15 thankfully and has been uh a staunch 47:18 Advocate with respect to gun violence um 47:21 and certainly the attempt on her life 47:23 the the the Congressional baseball game 47:27 shooting um in which uh representative 47:30 uh scalise um was wounded um and number 47:35 of instances of political violence 47:39 having her being a part of that Tableau 47:43 of the President and Vice President I 47:45 think uh levels up those conversations 47:47 and certainly Senator Mark Kelly Arizona 47:51 important state um Battleground State 47:54 certainly astronaut again tied to the 47:58 military and and foreign policy it also 48:01 gives us a classic white American hero 48:03 story which people do love no matter how 48:06 far we go down the road to uh equality 48:09 and uh our country still has a lot of 48:12 misogyny and it still has a lot of 48:13 racism so having a white male uh 48:16 American hero on the ticket does not 48:18 hurt still matters so I I those are my 48:21 favorite you know I I like Governor uh 48:24 Basher of of Kentucky um and he's done a 48:27 a phenomenal job getting elected as a 48:29 democrat in Kentucky as no small feat so 48:32 he brings um some bonafides Kentuck is 48:35 not a Battleground it doesn't and it 48:36 certainly doesn't mean that uh Democrats 48:39 would now win Kentucky with him on the 48:41 ticket but what it what he does is help 48:43 with the middle of the country uh and he 48:46 does help in in some areas um where 48:49 there are center right Independence um 48:53 um and sort of right leaning Democrats 48:57 that they could take some comfort uh in 48:59 the ticket you know Kamala being from 49:01 California there's immediate projection 49:03 of how Progressive she is um and she is 49:06 Progressive she's certainly more 49:07 Progressive than than um uh Joe Biden 49:11 but not at the same level as you know um 49:15 you know an yeah exactly um permil who 49:20 by the way is behind kamla who is behind 49:23 right and and so and that's an important 49:25 Point um Le because the progressives in 49:28 the house um aocc premila Jaa they've 49:31 aligned they've aligned themselves 49:33 behind kamla so that's that's an 49:35 important coming together of that uh 49:38 faction within the Democratic party so 49:41 those would be my choices I think um you 49:44 know at this moment we'll see where 49:47 where that ball bounces but I think a 49:49 military figure like a mccraven and or 49:52 someone like a governor Basher or a 49:55 senator Mark Kelly um covers a a lot of 50:00 important basis for yeah I can see that 50:03 you know people are talking to about 50:04 Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro 50:07 Illinois governor JB pritzer right uh 50:09 North Carolina governor boy Cooper but 50:11 there is part of me even Michigan 50:12 Governor Gretchen Whitmer although I 50:14 think the country is too misogynistic 50:15 for that but I would love to see it but 50:18 uh you know you got to be practical um 50:20 but I I would love to see someone that 50:21 didn't take away a role from a democrat 50:24 in an important state I would love to 50:25 see Andy basher stay as governor of 50:27 Kentucky I would love to see these 50:29 people stay as the governors of their 50:31 state they're doing great jobs those are 50:32 important roles I would love to see 50:34 people not lose uh those seats um to the 50:37 VP position so I think uh mccraven is 50:40 actually a very interesting someone I 50:41 hadn't even thought of so at at the end 50:44 of the day it seems like everyone is 50:45 getting behind kamla which I think is 50:46 good if we're talking about who her VP 50:48 pick is then we're not talking about 50:50 having some sort of weird open contested 50:52 convention um every state party so far 50:55 the unions EMILY's List most potential 50:57 competitors Nome shift budha judge 50:59 Warren AOC they're all behind her like 51:01 you said the delegates from a bunch of 51:03 states are already saying we're on her 51:04 team she's going to walk into that 51:06 convention with probably enough 51:07 delegates even a Nikki Haley pack is 51:09 behind her now which is like Yay let's 51:11 do that right so as you said you know 51:14 may you live in interesting times it is 51:17 not a hopeful comment but it is what we 51:20 are living through and as they say on 51:22 Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney 51:24 hold on to your hats and glasses because 51:26 it's going to be a bumpy ride so thank 51:29 you so much for joining me today Michael 51:31 You Are My Pal and I really appreciate 51:34 it because I went from fetal position to 51:37 Powerhouse position and now I'm back in 51:39 calm let's get her done land that's it 51:42 this time to get her done folks I mean 51:43 look I I get the emotional roller 51:45 coaster we've been on but throughout 51:47 that entire time my view was the the end 51:50 of the line that's what you need to get 51:52 to that it's going to require work it's 51:54 going to require a higher level of for 51:57 fortitude because we know what's coming 51:58 after KLA we know we know what's going 52:00 to be coming let's let's brace forward 52:03 and push back up against it um and carry 52:06 her across the Finish Line in 52:08 November yeah let's do that let's 52:10 actually just hoist her across that 52:12 Finish Line she is gonna i c I think we 52:14 could kill this and it could be so 52:16 exciting for the entire country yeah 52:19 it's GNA be it's it's going to be a good 52:21 I think it's a more interesting campaign 52:23 now because the idea uh for a lot of lot 52:26 of Americans of having two candidates 52:28 that they don't like because of their 52:29 age or whatever reason a lot of that 52:32 breaks breaks away Donald Trump is now 52:34 the oldest person to ever run for 52:36 president um he's 78 Joe Biden by the 52:39 way was 77 when he did it so um so now 52:43 he's the oldest candidate in this race 52:45 uh who certainly has mental and other 52:48 Acuity issues uh that uh I think are 52:51 important for the New York Times to 52:53 focus some of its its ink on since they 52:56 refused to do it up to this point um and 52:59 other outlets out there so look the 53:01 Dynamics have changed the conversation 53:04 is changed and we have no one other than 53:08 Joe Biden to thank for that and he put 53:10 the country before anything else we know 53:13 Donald Trump would never do that and I 53:16 think the country now should should 53:18 repay that gratitude by paying 53:21 attention uh and 53:24 voting that's it that's it my friend 53:27 pragmatism practicality and patriotism 53:30 there you go so that was Michael steel 53:33 reminding us to pay attention to what 53:35 happens now that the Brave and Noble 53:37 decision for Joe Biden to step down for 53:39 the good of the country has changed the 53:41 game the base might be justifiably angry 53:44 at how it was done but we can respect 53:46 our president enough to take his lead 53:48 and honor his choice and elect his 53:50 chosen successor kamla Harris despite 53:53 the chaos Biden's decision lands us in a 53:55 better place running against the 53:57 Republicans it's a prosecutor running 53:59 against a felon a young leader against 54:01 an old one a woman against a womanizer 54:04 and the American dream versus American Carnage I want to thank Michael for joining me today and you for 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