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Commentary Robert Reich and Heather Lofthouse ... July 27th 2024 Trump is Toast \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich and Heather Lofthouse PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uIpsvEmLBU Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Trump is Toast \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Robert Reich 727K subscribers Premiered 20 hours ago The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich What a difference a week makes! Kamala Harris is making all the right moves, while Trump and Vance are shaking in their boots. Heather Lofthouse of @imcivicaction and I break it all down in this week's Coffee Klatch. Please pour yourself a cup and join us. Transcript 0:00 and it is the Saturday coffee clutch with Heather loft house and yours truly Robert R we are just about tomorrow will be 100 days Heather before the election of 2024 here we go and it's extraordinary what a difference a week makes truly uh so what's on our agenda today let's talk about vice president kamla Harris's extraordinary uh first week as the presumptive presidential candidate I feel so much better than I do I mean the last time we were together I know last week we were tearing our hair out about about you and a lot of others and a lot of young people on social media which we'll talk about the memeification of kamla Harris Also let's see what's happening with JD Vance and Donald Trump we we have to talk about them we do and then also where are the billionaires these days and who are they lining up behind and what are they saying yeah I don't even like any I don't know any billionaires I don't like the ones I do know well that's inconsistent is it is yeah um so in terms of the first week I 1:02 was absolutely amazed at how fast kamla Harris and her team got off and running I mean it's just a i me her team which was also the Biden campaign team right so yes well there's a merger of the two teams now I've you know been around politics for 300 years so I have seen how teams kind of have a hard time working together because even though the President and Vice President are in the same same party and not the same ticket there's always a little tension in terms of personalities but these people came together and within one day Heather I know didn't miss a beat and think of the it's almost as if a damn burst I mean the amount of energy that the the Democrats have and kamla Harris has and you know she spoke to at least uh I don't know how many 10 officials an hour she was moving through the telephone I know on MSNBC everyone kept saying well she called me and she called me every 2:01 guest I saw on it and and she also managed to get uh within about 36 hours all of the delegates she needed uh and needs to be proclaimed the next presidential candidate a whole lot of money and a lot of money raised and a lot of its small donations not the big guys I me and new donors and new donors yeah uh this is really remarkable now this is what I think people had hoped for right when they were looking at what was happening and what the polls were saying they were hoping that if President Joe Biden passed the torch that there would be this upswell this Euphoria young people women like this and that Trump would be shaking in his boots well nobody expected as fast a response I mean I think that some people I talked to you know said well uh kamla Harris is the obvious uh one but there are a lot of other potential candidates Maybe we ought to slow down and just see 3:02 and maybe have a little bit of an open convection convention or maybe there ought to be a kind of a beauty pageant where you know a variety of potentially other candidates can come for we have tons of time we have a lot of time well the fact is there is no tons of time I mean 100 days tomorrow until the election itself uh the Democrat early voting is happening soon really voting is happening very soon and in a lot of states and you've got the Democratic Convention coming up and but more to the point the Republicans came out of their convention with a lot of a lot of energy and there was just no time is no time and the internet blew up really and so the Harris MH the memeification so all these interesting we can play one later maybe if we feel like it but so all these popular okay good all these popular songs that are now being used in videos for her and they've been hugely positive they've been dominating Tik Tok and I mean it's interesting it's 4:00 basically free political advertising it's all organic it's just people making videos and people liking them and they get into the Vortex social media I mean this is this is where the age issue becomes very important because social media young people are not only for KLA Harris overwhelmingly but they're also hearing other young people for C KLA Harris overwhelmingly on social media uh but at the same time we know that in the first two days 3 days Biden because the Biden campaign didn't you know it had you schedule campaign ads we're talking now about the formal media uh the TV and cable uh you scheduled Those ads weeks and weeks ahead so the Biden campaign had to withdraw all of those ads the HLA Harris campaign couldn't put the ads on nearly fast enough uh there's still issues about you know taking the money from one campaign and using it for the other campaign and so Trump was outspend in on traditional media TV and cable KLA 5:04 Harris by 25 to1 in the first uh really really the first part of this week which again is understandable because there's a lag time I mean you got to kind of catch up yes but it does really I think reveal the kind of striation with regard to the age I think older voters what they are hearing and seeing is a lot of anti kamla Harris anti- Biden Administration Biden Harris Administration ads the younger the kids the younger voters are all hearing and seeing a lot of pro KLA har on average and that's because of the organic stuff that's floating around and then on social media you can get your ads out much faster so comma HQ right it went from Biden HQ to kamla HQ using her first name and so yeah they were all over the place on social but there's this issue of energy I want to just spend a moment on it because politics really is about moment momentum and 6:00 energy and suddenly uh faster than I ever expected the momentum and energy is on her side this is the first week I remember that was not dominated by Donald Trump I was going to say you know who is not liking this I mean Donald Trump Donald Trump has been he has suuck the oxygen out of every week in terms of either saying something ludicrous or saying something that everybody got excited about or that liberals got angry about but Donald Trump disappeared yep or his indictments by the way and his or his indictments convictions but he was not the lead story this week and I think in terms of again energy and momentum this is a huge deal y can we talk about who kamla Harris might pick as her vice president well this is the next the next chapter the next drama and done and it's got to be soon right it's got to be very soon there are a lot of candidates what's interesting to me is that suddenly uh the Democratic backbench 7:01 reveals itself I mean everybody was saying just a week ago well there's no replacement there's nobody the Democratic party doesn't have young people doesn't have people who are in their 30s and 40s and 50s to take over the mantle and not only do you have CA Harris but you have all of these potential vice presidential candidates with her and it's really quite an impressive group right and we have to decide Ohio's coming up soon right so we think we'll hear well Ohio the Ohio primary you've got to get to get on the bowet you've got to be by the 7th of August this decision has to be made right uh so we're talking about a matter of what hours right days y uh and the people who are being vetted yes now vetting vetting what does that mean that means the FBI uh is looking at you uh the campaign is looking at you are there any skeletons in your closet definitely are there any I mean show me someone who has no skeletons please I have no 8:00 skeletons no no no you would never I would never forget it you however I know I have like three well get rid of them you can get rid of those skeletons I know them all no but so who so let's talk about it so we have um you've been writing about Mark Kelly yeah Mark Kelly to me I mean part of you know full disclosure I know him and uh and Gabby gford his wife right uh I think he would be a terrific candidate he is Arizona's US senator from Arizona um he uh was a former astronaut uh a Navy pilot uh his parents were both police officers on issues of gun control I mean issues that America cares about Gabby gf's being shot U made her and her husband Mark Kelly into major Advocates of gun regulation gun control uh he's in Arizona a key State a key swing state uh a border State he knows more about 9:00 what's going on at the border as does Gabby gords than almost anybody right uh so I think it's a natural now he's gotten a little flak for some flip-flopping on labor related stuff yes but I would know I'm you know I was labor secretary I know that stuff I know his position I'm very comfortable where where he is on on the labor but uh so I'm I'm a big Mark Kelly fat okay who else have we got Josh Shapiro let's just list them out well Josh Shapiro the of Pennsylvania uh has a very good reputation doesn't have a national reputation like Mark Kelly right uh but uh and he doesn't have much of a record on the national stage as a result but he has very very high marks people like him a lot how about Andy Basher Andy Basher a governor of Kentucky yeah well Kentucky is not exactly a swing state it's close to uh the swing States and it's a red State Red State but he's it's not as if Andy Basher gives the ticket that much because KY is going to stay a 10:02 red State um I think uh he is also very very attractive people speak highly of him as a young and he's a very very young and very very attractive uh candidate what about Roy Cooper North Carolina boy Cooper um I I think also the reason he's among the four big ones is that people are very excited about him he's done a very good job in North Carolina North Carolina is a swing state uh and he is considered to be an upand cominging young governor on a lot of issues I mean these Governors particularly the governors in Kentucky and in North Carolina what they've done is they've taken on red State legislatures on issues like abortion or gun control and they haven't it's not that they flipped them but they've they've they've contained some of this red State craziness right and then Tim Walls Tim Walls uh the governor of Minnesota uh was not on everybody's list 11:02 initially right because he although he's only 60 years old he looks about 70 uh now that was an ages thing I just said I'm 78 I can say that can you U but he uh he's very articulate he's very very we came I heard interview with him recently he's very very tough very good uh on this political stuff well we shall see but we're pretty sure it's going to be one of these people going to be I doubt going to gr Gretchen Whitmer Whitmer has a great governor of Michigan has a great reputation but frankly Heather I can't see a you know I would like to be able to see a a democratic ticket with two women but can is can you see that I mean I don't think it would be the wisest move knowing our electorate well knowing the electorate also Whitmer said she's not doing it well I think she's saying it she's not doing it because of that uh Pete Budaj uh gets high marks a lot of people love 12:01 him uh but frankly again it's very hard to see given you have the head of the ticket a black a woman of color uh woman of color right uh you know this is all this is expecting a lot from the American electorate as it is y so she kamla has been endorsed by who who this everybody yeah everybody everybody Olivia Rodrigo who's a pop star teachers teachers I mean it runs the gamut well all the politicians finally came around the Democratic politicians uh I was worried a little bit but you know the big hero it turns out of the week is none other than Nancy Pelosi Nancy Pelosi is the person who made the deal I mean she is the quintessential talented back room not in a negative way I'm using the back room in a positive way politician she uh she's the Whisperer she got Joe Biden to agree to step down uh she got the Democrats to agree to 13:02 endorse kamla Harris she uh she really is a champion and President Biden's speech on whenever it was Wednesday night what did you think of it I thought it was exactly what he needed to do it was only 11 minutes I was kind of it was it made me sad because here's a man who uh has to and had has had to face his limits his limitations his decline um and the fact that he just can't do the job anymore well he can do the job currently he can and he will finish his term and he certainly has enough uh in his kind of memory bank and his and his capacity to finish the term but he could not do another term of office I think that's the main takeaway and uh I thought he was gracious he was gracious last uh last Sunday uh when he bowed out uh he's been extraord when he called into the campaign headquarters uh that's 14:02 really when it got to me when he when kamla Harris was there in campaign headquarters in Delaware talking to people uh giving them a pep talk and he calls in and he has covid and he says you know that's the way to go and calls her kid y um I mean I I was touched it was very touching he was on speaker phone and she was you know reacting to him and very authentic and there was love the word love was used multiple times well I think they are not scared of using that word and I think it's genuine M um now how about Donald Trump and JD B speak lot of love yeah it's been so fascinating so that pick do you think I mean we've heard a little bit this week was that was JD I mean was JD Vance the right pick the answer is no but was it the right pick for them for the reasons they thought they were getting him no I don't think so I think they thought they were going to get well number one young a young person yes they got somebody who's half the age of literally exactly half the age of Donald Trump uh they also wanted to get somebody who 15:01 would be reinforcing the base the message to the base and that seems like what he does I don't see any new people heading their way no he's not attracting anybody who's not already Maga he is sort of Maga plus MaGa on steroids uh and that is a problem for them I mean how are they going to attract women the entire you know as we talked about before at the entire Republican convention was a kind of Macho Maga man you know tough wrestling Hulk uh well um it's uh it it turns out that with KLA Harris at the top of the ticket uh this is a mistake because how many more voters are there in America who are women million 3 million uh and I think they're going to be out in great force oh I think so too and Suburban women matter in swing States and this is going to be big yes so JD Advance you know he would it made 16:01 it made sense I think in their mindset where they thought they were going to trounce Biden but this is interesting to watch whoopsy they're stuck with him it's very it's particularly interesting because KLA Harris in her first week the the themes that she has been using I am a prosecutor she says and I am used to dealing with people who have Abused women and have broken the law and are you know felons and have cheated his type I know his type and this is but this is really ingenious uh and then she can move on to she hasn't yet but she can move on to women's rights uh over their bodies uh she has it gives her a really strong platform uh in which she has a great deal of credibility and JD Vance all these quotes he's been saying that are coming out that are truly horrific that say things like you know childless cat women out there he called her a childless cat lady yeah I mean 17:03 what kind of this is the Republicans I mean these two Republicans Trump and Vance let's call them Trump Republicans they are digging a hole for themselves in terms of fear and anger uh and fear and anger will take you some way but as long as kamla Harris and whoever she's picks for Vice President are on the side of Hope and joy and it's mourning and America and you know we can do it and we're going to look for the future uh that's a winning formula but it's so disparaging and it's so misogynistic uh the the Trump trump fence is yes it's misogynistic and it is also part of it is uh is also isolationist uh in terms of foreign policy uh it's uh it's a it's a kind of xenophobic uh anti-foreign uh I don't think it's it's certainly not the the future of America uh and it's certainly 18:01 not uplifting and this anti- people without children who haven't given birth to Children this is echoed in Project 2025 by the way which talks about men and women who have families as being well Vance has not given birth I don't think no and Trump has not given birth no I think a lot of the presidents that we've had turns out have not given I don't think a single president we've had has given birth I don't think let me think Monroe Monro may have no no keep going Dolly Madison no no she's a stepmother but I mean it is just so disparaging and they are leaning into this and it's disgusting this is the family this is the Evangelical right this is their the whole notion that there is a right way to have a family yep and if you don't do it the right way then you are somehow sinning yep yep well here again aberant well this is again this looks back this is this is America in the 19 what 20 uh 1930s this is not modern America uh 19:03 it's certainly not the future of America no and I don't think a lot of Americans want this I don't think so either but let's hope they see it see it for what it is and show up and vote accordingly I think they will now again let's go back to the the notion this is a 100 days starting tomorrow until the election yeah uh these days these weeks that we are in now are critical in terms of KLA Harris and her vice president defining themselves defining the Democratic party defining the future for America uh inviting people to join them even if they are Independence and as we know they're more Independence than there are Republicans Or democrats uh and so uh what they've got to do and I think they are off to a wonderful start doing it is painting the future of America in in a way that people say yes I want that that's part that's partly what I want Bob your energy is great today I'm so EXC I mean I was excited anyway this is 20:01 a fun coffee CL I'm pumped up I mean I really I I was trying to restrain my you know my Gloom about Biden for for for weeks and months I know and I was I felt sorry for him uh but I was I was getting more and more worried yeah and now there will I think this will be a long goodbye right and we will see he will really I hope be honored for all that he has accomplished which is remarkable yeah and that started off immediately in when he T passed the torch last Sunday um people gave him so much credit yeah you know I've been around presidents before and I also am getting up in age so I know how hard it is for presidents to give up that office I mean to be to even run for president you've got to have you know a a huge ego huge ree you know a degree of narcissism to begin with uh 21:01 and also once you get up to your late 70s and certainly in your 80s uh there is a resistance to knowing the truth to to accepting your limits uh there's a great deal of denial that sets in and cognitive dissonance I'm sure just and and on both those grounds and cognitive dissonance uh I think it was very hard for Joe Biden to accept this and so uh what you see and heard is this out pouring of thanks gratitude he finally saw it uh and Donald Trump just the reverse Donald Trump would not put the country before his own ego oh pleas as Biden did Donald Trump just you know puts his ego his ambition his narcissistic need in lights in front of everything in front of absolutely everything yep yep yep yep so let's talk about Reed Hoffman so the billionaire behind LinkedIn and other things other Investments I'm sure has come out and 22:00 said I am giving $7 million to the comma campaign and also what would be really great is if you could get rid of Lena Khan because she is the chair of the Federal Federal Trade Commission and I'd like her out thank you so much sound sound like it sounds like a quidd pro quo that is let at least he's putting out the quidd I think it's in the dictionary as quidd pro quo but also get rid of the people doing the regulation well I I think one of the most important things that could be done right now uh and that kamla Harris could do is saying to say to the billionaires uh if you want to support me that's fine but I am not going to take away I'm not going to I'm going to not going to do your bidding uh as Donald Trump and JD Vance would do I am going to keep Lena Khan exactly where she is I want a strong antitrust anti-monopoly fighter uh and as the National Labor Relations Board I want uh Jennifer abuso 23:02 who is a very strong union person uh and at the antitrust division of the justice department I want J Jonathan kener who is also a strong antitrust fighter I mean I I want people who are going to fight for average working people and against monopolistic corporations billionaires billionaires take that billionair and so and then on the other side we have JD Vance and Trump pretending to be these economic populists right oh we love workers they love us well it's all a pretense now unfortunately uh a lot of people believe it they suffer from a kind of collective Amnesia about what Trump actually did uh Trump's one major legislative achievement was the big tax cut for the wealthy and for big corporations uh and he at the regulatory level uh was making it almost impossible harder to get time and a half overtime harder for workers to form unions um I mean he was he and his administration 24:01 were the most anti-worker Administration and anti-union administration we've had in this country for years and project 2025 has more of the same in it by the way I hope that not right this minute but I hope soon the Democrats uh and K Harris begin to talk about project 2025 and and and Link Trump to it he's trying to distance himself but it's a document that lays out the plan for Trump's takeover of the United States government yeah uh with uh everything we've talked about you know the the kind of uh negative uh you know take away women's rights to their own body of anything uh substitute the entire Civil Service get rid of it and have loyalists in there uh Department of Education and get rid of the Department of Education uh get rid of the you know uh put the Federal Reserve board under the white house there's not enough time in this coffeee 25:00 clutch to go through what project 2025 is doing but it is a a very frightening document and we you know inequality media Civic action we have we have videos ready to go explaining in detail what that is yep did you see that JD Vance did the forward for a book for one of the key writers of it too and everyone keeps trying to distance themselves well they're not going to be able to distance themselves from it they're so I mean the nodes the the connections I mean they're never ending well there there were four cabinet members from the Trump Administration that were there writing it and something 115 uh Trump um employees and White House people who have been writing it you can't you can't get away from it no and this is a blueprint for tyranny it's a blueprint for fascism yeah I was thinking it might be fun for us to look at one of the viral videos going around about kamla Harris that have been erupting online in the past week what do you think 26:00 absolutely and and the thing about these videos these viral videos is that this is not paid advertising this is people this is this is the side of social media that is small D democracy this is people young people particularly rising up and doing this stuff and posting it right and picking the trends that are making them happy and then combining kamla Harris with these songs by people like Charlie XCX Charlie XX mhm yeah oh you said it fast and quick well played um yeah brat what is brat so that's her album and everyone now it's becom yes and now it's because charx is a woman or a man or is a woman who's a pop singer who has an album called brat and there's a charty green color that's behind it now that's become and there's a dance there's a dance there's a lot of yes there's a Dance I mean see you can't you can't pay for this you know what you're talking about you can't pay for this kind of advertising well that is it this is this is this is coming up this is 27:00 kind of exctly okay so let's take a look ready you think you just fell out of a coconut tree big sister General all in you live know what's wrong with you young I love it 2.8 million likes on that one and it just now I want you to do a mental exercise with me try to look at that feel that energy and then superimpose or put it next to Donald Trump and JD Vance and that negative I know you know that kind of viciousness Y uh well it's a pretty clear choice it's a clear choice also what I love about this is they trash her for her laugh and they turn all these things negative mean Trump Trump and Vance and the other for her 28:02 laugh have you ever seen Donald Trump laugh have you ever heard him laugh no I can't even picture it actually I can't I it's disgusting but there's no laughter there has never been any laughter he does not laugh you're right I didn't even think about that JD Vance doesn't laugh no but they do these terrible jokes and then people kind of in the crowd at them well there's another contrast laughter laughter or snide n n yeah good on that note anyway on that note listen I I want you all to celebrate with us that we finally have some not only just positive news but we've got to wave uh and we got to ride this wave and please join kamla Harris and join Heather and join me and join everybody here at inequality media Civic action Civic action in terms of in terms 29:02 of just uh being joyful laughing and getting involved because we need you the country needs you the country needs your involvement uh a week can make a huge amount of difference it's extraordinary how much difference it can make uh when we were last together last Saturday it was pretty it was sort of grim U but have a wonderful week we'll see you next Saturday [Music]

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