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US POLITICS JOW BIDEN ... AFTERMATH OF POOR DEBATE PERFOREMANCE The Rachel Maddow Show 8/3/2024 \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 BREAKING NEWS Today August 3, 2024 PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2YbJUcDn6o Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
The Rachel Maddow Show 8/3/2024 \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 BREAKING NEWS Today August 3, 2024 99.5K subscribers Show 8/3/2024 \| BREAKING NEWS Today August 3, 2024 Around The World News Aug 4, 2024 5.5K subscribers ... 2,092 views ... 33 likes Show 8/3/2024 \| BREAKING NEWS Today August 3, 2024 0:00 ing news today if I can judge Canon dismissed the documents cases you may have heard in Mara Lago uh can I first get your reaction to that I'm not surprised it comes from the immunity decision the Supreme Court ruled on and Clarence Thomas in his descent said that independent prosecutors appointed by the Attorney General aren't legit That's the basis on which this judge moved to dismiss the the basis upon which the case was thrown out I find specious because I don't agree with Clarence Thomas descent and or the Supreme Court decision on the unity before this violent turn of events over the weekend the talk as you know was about you and your future if you should stay in the race your allies James kurn Nancy Pelosi have kind of put it out there that they're waiting for your 1:00 decision giving you time to make your decision what I hear from you is that you made your decision are you still comfortable in that decision has anything changed in the last several days no what do you make of people like Nancy Pelosi though who seem to be of the opinion that there is a window for you to make this Choice what aren't they getting look uh we knew this was going to be a close race from the moment he and anounced the idea that we are in a 1:34 situation where if you look at all the 1:36 polling data the polling data shows a 1:39 lot of different things but there's no 1:41 wide gap between us it's essentially a 1:43 tossup race and I think one of the 1:47 arguments that could made you have the 1:49 most successful presidency of any 1:51 president of modern history maybe since 1:52 Franklin Roosevelt passed more major 1:54 legislation no one thought could get 1:56 done we're able to put together 1:58 consensus we're able to unite NATO 2:00 you're able to deal in foreign policy 2:03 why don't you just decide to rest on on 2:05 those Laurels and the answer is because 2:07 the job's not finished President Obama 2:10 put out a statement after the debate but 2:13 should he and Michelle Obama be doing 2:15 more to express their confidence in you 2:18 no they they're helping me they've 2:19 helped me from the beginning this is my 2:22 job to get this 2:23 done have you talked to him recently 2:25 about this I haven't talked to him in a 2:27 couple 2:28 weeks have you have you talked to him 2:30 since this issue came to light since the debate I don't think I may have I don't think so Mr Trump has said he's giving you a chance to redeem yourself basically the idea of engaging in another debate um we are going to have another debate yeah you're going to have one in September that's on the books would you be open to doing one in you know in the next few weeks I'm going to debate him when we agreed to debate and I'm going toate him in September but if if the opportunity came up to do one between now and then is there is there a sense of wanting to get back on the horse I'm on the horse where have you been I've done 22 major 3:08 events and thousands of people overwhelming crowds a lot happening I'm on the horse what I'm doing is going out and demonstrating to the American people that I'm command of all my faculties that I don't need uh notes I don't need telepro I can go out and answer any questions at all Mr President it's always good to talk to you good to see you thank you for making some time for us sometimes come and talk to me about what we should be talking about all right okay the issues Transcript 0:00 to bankruptcy through no fault of their own right but he's dragging them through court because they screwed him right they had the evidence of the toilet paper all along and the banjo and the heads that no one else can see but he can see them okay so pop quiz which figure in this story is the single largest donor in the country to the Donald Trump and JD Vance campaign if you guessed Amelia aarts disembodied head in a bag I'm sorry you're wrong no it's this guy and unexpected twist which figure in this story is the single largest donor in the country also to the Robert F Kennedy Jr conspiracy theories and antivaccine presidential campaign also not Amelia aarts disembodied head nor the cellophane bag nor the toilet paper rolls same guy you've heard all this new news about 1:00 Donald Trump and JD Vince having all this support from you know Elon Musk and all these eccentric very very very right-wing sort of anti-democracy billionaires right actually no it's this guy is the biggest donor this guy has given more to the Trump Vance presidential effort than anyone else in the country and he has also given more to the RFK Jr for president effort than anyone else in the country both of those campaigns him as the largest donor and of all the weird things in this story it is actually not all that weird that those two things go together that Trump's biggest donor is also rfk's biggest donor I mean Republican political operatives are now running RFK ads in five swing states that call RFK a liberal and call him pro-choice neither of which he is but both of which are intended to siphon votes away from Harris and the Democrats by tricking people into voting for RFK instead the RFK campaign at this point is built to help elect Donald 2:01 Trump as for Timothy melan though the the I found the head of ailia aart in a bag guy he has made um nearly a quarter billion dollars in donations to conservative candidates in causes just in the past four years he's not a long-term donor he's not been doing this forever but he's really doing it now and he indeed has given $75 million to Trump advance and $25 million to RFK Jr who knows what else is coming Mr melon wrote A Memoir in 2014 in which he said uh citizens who get help from the government quote are slaves of a new master Uncle Sam he also wrote in that Memoir that in the 1980s quote God I can't even read this in the 1980s quote black people became even more belligerent and unwilling to pck pitch in to improve their own 3:02 situations even more belligerent but that is the man who has done more materially more than anyone else in the United States to try to get these men back into the White House and honestly to get toilet paper the respect it deserves for its really surprising resilience against deep sea conditions admit it you weren't giving to for the credit it deserves 75 years old under the sea so we are 999 days out from the presidential election uh the Democrats by the end of next week will have officially nominated vice president kamla Harris as their Presidential nominee which we think means with that timing they're saying that she will be nominated officially by August 7th which is next Wednesday we think with that timing it means that sometime just in the next few days we're going to know who she has chosen as her running mate interestingly North Carolina's govern Roy Cooper announced tonight that he is 4:01 taking himself out of consideration for that role he's only the second person to have done that Admiral William mcraven uh made a similar announcement last week and you know honestly who knows who the vice president really does have on her short list who she really wants this is the kind of decision the running mate decision is the decision that a nominee absolutely gets to make on their ownsome right so they'll get advice right and they'll they'll take advice from all sorts of different people and they'll see how the the candidates or the short list candidates make the make the case for themselves in the campaign campaign TR elsewhere but ultimately it's really up to her so we we shall see popular wisdom at this point is that these are probably this is probably a reasonable approximation of the folks who are in the running um Minnesota Governor Tim Walls uh Transportation secretary Pete budajudge Kentucky Governor Andy Basher Illinois governor JB pritzer Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro Arizona Senator Mark Kelly uh maybe Michigan senator Gary Peters who's a sort of interesting um choice 5:04 being discussed of late you know we'll see maybe maybe there's somebody else being vetted we do not know about I don't think anybody knew that Admiral mcraven was being vetted before he announced that he did not want to be further considered but whoever her choice is it's all going to happen fast now and Democrats you know getting getting fast out of the gate since KLA Harris took the helm with this incredible wind in the sales in terms of volunteers and in terms of energy and in terms of fundraising and in terms of just everything coming together so fast one of the things that Democrats are very quickly homed in on in an I think unexpected but pretty deeply resonant way is that there's something a little off with the other side there's something a little weird with the Republican campaign and I don't actually think it's personal I don't think it is that Donald 6:01 Trump is personally weird or that JD Vance is personally weird it's that there is something weird about their campaign and you know weird isn't a pajora of term necessarily who Among Us isn't a little weird right weird is not necessarily bad intrinsically but in the case of the Republican Presidential ticket and how they are trying to regain the White House there is something going on that does feel off and sort of unsettling and some of it is right on the surface and one piece of it is deeper and darker I mean it's it's not just because their their single biggest donor is a zillionaire who is convinced he found ailia Art's head in a bag and if you say otherwise he will see you in court there is weird stuff like that right on the surface it's also that Trump has been pinging around in kind of an eccentric right-wing billionaire pinball machine since his campaign started and I don't know exactly why that is but don't forget that in addition to everything else going on for Donald Trump right now he does owe hundreds of millions of dollars in civil 7:02 fraud penalties thanks to what he and his business got caught doing in New York state as he embarks on yet another presidential run a third presidential run with that personal financial disgrace and pressure looming over him he has gravitated more than you might even expect and more than he even has in the past to very eccentric very right-wing billionaires both for financial support and interestingly to tell him what to do which he has then done directly to now repeatedly embarrassing effect so for example Trump used to call Bitcoin and cryptocurrency a disaster waiting to happen he said he was quote not a fan he said crypto and Bitcoin were quote based on thin air well now after meeting with crypto lobbyists he says he's going to make America the crypto capital of the planet Trump was against Tik 8:06 Tock Trump not was so against Tik Tok he tried to ban it then he met with a billionaire who has a big stake in Tik Tok and now he is a champion of Tik Tock Trump promoted the right-wing boycott of Budweiser right Budweiser oh they're so left-wing right which is insane in the first place but that that was a thing for the right and Trump promoted those boycotts then an anheiser Bush lobbyist threw him a fundraiser and Trump did a total 180 we should all be buying Budweiser now now it's electric vehicles Trump has been railing against electric vehicles for years and and and really intensely for months now remember it was part of his weird rambling NeverEnding speech at the RNC that there's an electric vehicle mandate which there isn't and he's going to free us from the fake electric vehicle mandate he'll allow americ 8:59 Americans to have gas cars again since Joe Biden banned gas cars again this is this is not a true thing he was saying about Joe Biden or about there being any mandate about electric cars but he has been on this Rift for months about how electric cars are terrible and he will free us from the tyranny of electric cars except now he's just realized that this might make for an awkward relationship with Elon Musk who is occasionally the richest man in this country and who owns a large electric car company once Elon Musk reneged a few days ago on what the Wall Street Journal had said would be a $45 million a month donation pledge to Trump trump has now started talking about how much he loves electric vehicles how he drives them how they're incredible how they're so great and you know you you do that once okay maybe you evolved or maybe it's a coincidence or maybe you just got old and confused and forgot your previous stance but it's everything now it's on 10:03 everything like pick a topic Trump takes position meets billionaire who has opposite position Trump then adopts opposite position it just happens over and over and over again somebody should PR pretend to be like a billionaire who hates licorice right get Trump to meet an iate licorice billionaire see how long it takes for Trump to start railing about the evil of Twizzlers now he's going to he's going to ban Li ish make America whatever again right Trump did have one very important billionaire in 2016 who he then subsequently lost was far-right eccentric Silicon Valley billionaire Peter teal famous for saying that everything's gone downhill since women had the right to vote and that he doesn't think freedom and democracy are compatible and so he chooses Freedom democracy's got to go um he lost Peter teal after teal supported him in 2016 Trump is now working hard to get him back and that has caused Trump again to do some weird stuff after teal supported 11:04 Trump in 2016 he decided he wasn't going to support politicians anymore for a while but then in 2022 Peter Teel changed his mind he couldn't resist he ran two of his own proteges for the United States Senate JD Vance in Ohio the man on your left Blake Masters in Arizona the man on your right these were both proteges of Peter teal these are both men who Peter teal sort of built out of clay they were both given jobs by him both made Wealthy by him he created both of their careers and adopted them both as proteges and then Peter teal in both cases singlehandedly funded a senate campaign for each of them at the same time he had supported Trump in Republican candidates in 2016 and then sworn off doing that couldn't resist got back into the game with these two guys whom he ran for Senate in 20122 and I say he ran for Senate because he personally individually invested $15 million in each of these sen guys Senate races which is larger than any single donation ever made in any other Senate race ever 12:06 by any other person and he did it for both of them and there's no chance either of them would have had anything remotely approaching a chance at winning either of those seats without Peter teal and even still I mean Vance won but barely now Peter teal has succeeded in getting him getting him on to Trump's ticket getting Trump to pick him as running mate although maybe Trump will have enough buyers remorse that that will change I don't know uh Blake Masters even with Peter Teal's 15 million lost and it isn't hard to understand why Blake Masters really is the guy who was asked who is the most underrated thinker in America it wasn't a multiple choice question it was an open question who is the most underrated thinker in America and his answer was the unibomber so no he didn't win that senate seat even with Peter T's $15 million but now 13:02 Blake Masters is running again this time he's running for a seat in Congress in Arizona and the primary is tomorrow and here's the amazing thing Donald Trump already has a guy in that race tomorrow this G this guy's name is Abe hamade uh he has been part of the whole election denial thing in Arizona for Trump he refused to recognize the results of his own last election when he lost he's Associated deeply with the whole Trump election denial um thing in Arizona with the Trump election denialist Senate candidate Carrie Lake who Trump did an event with just today this this is the Trump guy in the race but then there's also in the same race this guy Blake Masters popping out of Peter Teal's pocket running in the same race in the same primary tomorrow and he's Peter Teal's guy and did I mention that Donald Trump owes hundreds of millions of dollars right now and his whole camp pain now is about doing whatever the last billionaire who 14:02 spoke to him wants him to do no matter the incoherence part of what's so weird 14:09 about the Donald Trump campaign right now is whatever the last very rich person said in his ear he then immediately says as if that's his new 14:15 policy and always has been but in the case of Peter teal Donald Trump really does not want to 14:20 lose this billionaire right he does not want to lose Peter teal he lost him once before and he has gone out of his way to 14:28 get Peter teal back he just put Peter Teal's other repellent bizarre Protege 14:34 on his ticket with him for which he is paying dearly because JD Vance at least 14:39 out of the gate looks like a terrible running mate for Donald Trump but even still even after Trump did that for him 14:45 Peter te isn't ponying up he really needs this guy so what's he gonna do in this 14:51 Arizona Congressional race right what can he do he's already got a trump guy in the 14:56 race but Peter Teal's got a guy there too who's running against him what can Trump do the primary is 15:03 tomorrow he has done the funniest possible thing I am pleased to announce 15:09 that both Blake Masters and a hamade have my complete and total endorsement 15:15 oh the courage he has endorsed both of these men who are running against each 15:20 other now to be clear they both can't win but one of them is the Trump guy in 15:27 the race already and one of them lives in the pants pocket of a billionaire for whom Trump will do absolutely anything 15:33 and so here I hereby endorse both vote for both may they both win even though 15:39 they're both running for the same seat but I said there's there's a lot 15:46 going on at this at the surface level in terms of donors and campaign positions 15:51 and campaign strategy and the way they're behaving in public there's a lot that is weird about this campaign thus 15:58 far but there is one last thing in terms of the weirdness of this campaign that I think is actually quite 16:03 serious um You probably heard this weekend that um Donald Trump told an 16:08 audience on Friday night that if they vote for him this November if if if he's voted back into office this November 16:14 they will never have to vote again he told an audience on Friday to 16:20 quote get out and vote just this time he said after this time quote you won't 16:25 have to do it anymore you won't have to vote anymore he said quot in 4 years you 16:30 don't have to vote again we'll have it fixed so good and you're not going to have to 16:36 vote now this is not the first time Trump has told a campaign audience that they will never have to vote again once 16:42 they vote him back in this time and that is as alarming as it sounds for all the reasons that you immediately think it is 16:48 right I mean he he's positing this like this is a happy thing oh joy never having the burden of voting again right 16:55 the point of democracy is that we vote all the time and we like it that's how we decide what happens in our country 17:02 he's promising his followers that he'll end all of that and it just it's exactly what you think it is but let me also point out something more strange which has been happening at the same time and it hasn't had as much attention the day before Trump ra made those remarks on Friday on Friday he said you never going to have to vote again after you vote for me this one time the day before that on Thursday last week he didn't say that people wouldn't have to vote anymore once he was elected this November now the day before that on Thursday he told his supporters not that they're not going to have to vote again but that they don't have to vote this time that they don't need to vote for him this November my instruction we don't need the votes I have so many votes my instruction we don't need the votes I have so many votes he said that on on Thursday last week and it turns out this is something when you look he says this all the time 18:05 now watch my instruction we don't need the votes I have so many votes we don't need votes I tell my people I don't need any votes we got all the votes we need I don't need votes we don't need votes we got more votes than anybody's everever had you don't have to vote don't worry about voting the voting we got plenty of votes don't worry about voting of all the weirdness around this campaign this is a truly strange thing to tell people right don't vote I don't need your vote I don't want your vote I mean all the surface level weirdness is you know worth noting having your single biggest donor being the I have Amelia airharts head in the bag guy that's a weird thing having a new position on literally anything you can think of as soon as any random rich guy tells you to that's a weird thing picking The Eccentric Billionaire's intern for your running mate even though you apparently had no idea who he was or what a disaster he is on television all of this is weird but telling voters do 19:05 not bother to vote for me it doesn't matter if you do I don't need your votes that is a thing that should prick up your ears because what that means is that he doesn't think he needs to win the vote to win the election he doesn't think he needs to win the election in order to take power he thinks something other than votes is going to determine whether or not he gets back in the White House at Rolling Stone today they profile 70 different election officials who have been put into position in the swing states of Arizona Georgia Michigan Nevada North Carolina and Pennsylvania who are election denialists committed election denialists officials that have been put in place in all of those swing states to make sure that election results no matter what they are do not get certified in those States this year quote at least 22 of these election officials have already refused or delayed certification processes in 20:03 recent elections according to democratic election lawyer Mark Elias quote I think we are going to see Mass refusals to certify the election in November quote Republicans are counting on not just that they can disrupt the election in big counties they're counting on the fact that if they don't certify in several small counties you can't certify Statewide results 70 officials in place across just the swing States for all the surface level weird behavior and language and strange choices and incoherence and odd donors in the Republican campaign the serious core at the heart of it is that they are not planning on the vote being counted as normal they are not counting on the election results being tallied as normal they are not counting on the vote and in fact Trump is now repeatedly saying the vote will not matter he doesn't even want your vote the Republicans are counting on the election results not being 21:06 certified thereby creating chaos in Washington around the results just like 2020 right just like January 6 2021 except this time with no Mike Pence in the way and with Republican officials already in place in multiple States saying yeah you may not get any sort of official vote the weirdness of this campaign is astonishing 999 days out the dislocation from real campaigning though the dislocation from actually asking asking people for their votes that means something it means they are not trying to win this thing in a normal way so 99 days out as Democrats stand up what by all accounts looks like a juggernaut traditional campaign under kamla Harris are they prepared for this level of weirdness after the votes are C 22:00 are they ready for what's coming more ahead hey everybody so today Iowa put in place a trump abortion ban which makes Iowa the 22nd state in our country to have a trump abortion ban and this ban is going to take effect before many women even know they're pregnant and what this means is that one in three women of reproductive age in America lives in a state with a trump abortion ban so what we need to do is vote cuz I'm going to tell you something when I am president of the United States I will sign into law the protections for Reproductive Freedom so let's get this done as vice president kamla Harrison EMB barks on her second week as a presidential candidate her message is not subtle uh Donald Trump regularly brags about overturning the constitutional right to an abortion in this country and if you're going to brag about that then every state abortion ban that made possible gets your name on it the latest abortion ban in this country went into effect today in Iowa it is as Draconian as it gets it makes abortion illegal after about six weeks 23:07 which as the vice president said before that's before many women even know they are pregnant comma Harris has long been the Biden administration's most forceful high-profile advocate for abortion rights in March she became the first vice president to ever visit an abortion clinic polling shows a major increase in support for abortion rights since row is over returned abortion rights ballot initiatives have had a 100% success rate in state after State even in deep red States they'll be up for a vote in at least six more States this November Donald Trump chose a Hardline advocate for a National Abortion ban with no exceptions as his running mate in JD Vance but at the Republican National Convention this month they basically avoided the issue entirely as KLA Harris today talks about the Trump abortion bans and the newest Trump abortion banss and how saying one 24:01 in three of women one in three women in reproductive age in America lives in a state with a trump abortion ban as she just puts an absolute bullseye on that issue it's clear that this is not the only issue on which this campaign is going to be decided but having a Draconian abortion ban a total abortion ban go into effect today less than a 100 days from the election just puts this more front and center than it ever even was before joining us now is the Democratic from Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren Senator Warren it's great to have you here thank you so much for making time thank you good to be with you first I I haven't had a chance to talk with you since um KLA Harris uh became the nominee she's got the she's she's the deao nominee at this point let me just get your reaction first to what this this this week this eight days has been like in Democratic politics it's just been amazing you know she has pulled our party together she is ready to go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump and she's going to win on November 5th 25:01 uh you can just feel it out there the people who are signing up who are coming in who are volunteering who are pitching in their 10 bucks who are talking about it in the grocery store and at the drug store and on the sidewalks the energy out there is unbelievable and people people are hopeful they're hopeful about the kind of nation that we can build and about how we can treat each other with some basic respect and this this issue around abortion has so many layers to it in terms of what it means to people you know vice president Harris said it right 30% of all women in the United States live in a state that effectively bans abortion over a million more women were added to that list today and we've really seen over the last two years what that means um I've stood there with women talked with women who have been told by their doctors that they need an 26:03 abortion uh they're in the middle of a miscarriage but they're not close enough 26:09 to death yet to be able to get the help they need I've also talked with doctors 26:16 who say they make judgments now in some States about well I know it's medically 26:23 necessary and I know I'm eventually going to be able to do it but if I give the medically necessary care a little 26:30 too early could I be prosecuted criminally I mean that's what we've created but here's the thing if Donald 26:38 Trump and JD Vance end up in the White House it won't be 30% of women will live 26:45 in states with those vans it will be 100% because make no mistake they're not 26:52 stopping with the states that have banned abortion they are coming for everyone red States blue States and they 26:59 can do it from the national level so this is one of those moments you just 27:05 have to keep saying it over and over and over we're 99 days out we got to say it every day for the next 98 days ring the 27:14 bill they want to deny access to abortion and by the way that also means 27:20 access denying access to IVF they want to do that not in just a part of the 27:25 country not in just some states but all over this country that's their extremist 27:31 agenda to have the the contrast on that issue Row versus Wade overturn 22 States 27:38 Republican controlled States having banned abortion to have vice president Harris who's such a champion on this 27:44 issue against Donald Trump who just picked JD Vance who could not be more extreme on this issue I mean talk about 27:51 a a Stakes Spotlight right talk about a a a very very very clear choice for the 27:58 country and one that electorally favors Democrats we have seen abortion um 28:03 ballot measures pass in in in the red Estates in the country abortion rights when people have the chance to vote on 28:09 they vote for them all of that for me makes me worry more acutely 28:17 about the way the election is going to be conducted I have had conversations with you about this in the past but I'm 28:24 very worried that Republicans seem to be approaching this election as one that they don't need to win they need to game 28:31 that they don't need to get the votes they need to get the vote counters they 28:36 need to take care of the certification process they need to take care of the process of the electoral votes being 28:42 reported to Washington and somehow by doing that it won't matter how Americans vote given the stakes of this that's 28:49 scary in any circumstance given the stakes of this election it feels like a cliff um how how do you feel about that 28:56 so I look at it this way everybody's got a job to do for the next 29:01 99 days and the job for me and for most of the people who are out there 29:07 listening to this is we got to get our votes out we don't win if we don't get our votes out we don't win if people 29:13 don't go to the polls we have got to get our votes out we can't discourage people from doing that we can't say the game is 29:20 going to be played out somewhere else we need to vote and we need to vote in such 29:26 overwhelming numbers that it is hard to ignore what we've done now simultaneously we need people 29:34 who are fighting them in the courts and that's happening we need people who are figuring out uh how to do the rules and 29:42 the ballot challenges and how to keep all of our states votes counted 29:49 absolutely critical but we can't miss the center of this and the center is we 29:55 got to get as many people as humanly possible to understand that abortion is 30:02 on the ballot come November 5th IVF is on the ballot come November 5th an 30:08 extremist Supreme Court is on the ballot come November 5th and of course best of 30:13 all kamla Harris is on the ballot come November 5th and that we have a senate 30:20 on the ballot we have a house on the ballot we have got to turn out our votes 30:26 we do that we done our part we've got others who are watching the rest of it I I understand your concerns here Rachel 30:34 but but we got to get focused on turning out that vote I hear you and it I have 30:40 great respect for our institutions and a separation of powers laid out in our constitution but what's happening now is 30:47 not consistent with that doctrine of separation of powers 30:52 extremism is undermining the public confidence in the Court's decisions today I'm calling for three bold reforms 30:59 to restore trust and accountability to the court and our democracy three bold reforms President 31:07 Biden had already said that he wants to spend his remaining months in office working on Bold reform to the United 31:14 States Supreme Court today he finally spelled out what that means he called for three specific changes one fix the 31:20 Damage Done by the recent court decision that said presidents are free to commit crimes without fear of prosecution he 31:27 says that should should be undone the only way you can undo something like that which is with a constitutional 31:32 amendment number two he said there should be term limits for Supreme Court justices they shouldn't serve for life 31:38 anymore he said there should be 18-year terms he said that would have the effect of stopping any single president from 31:45 reshaping bench for a generation and third he said we should Institute a 31:51 binding code of conduct an Ethics code so justices would at least need to report things like the lavish vacations 31:59 they have quietly been accepting from rich people who have an interest in the cases that are before the 32:04 court that today was President Biden's very specific three-part pitch for 32:09 trying to restore public trust in the Supreme Court now at least one Justice Justice Elena Kagan has already said yes 32:15 to part of that in concept saying there does need to be an enforcable code of ethics Justice upon which tens of 32:22 millions of Americans had come to rely for decades joining us now is cherylyn 32:28 Eiffel she's the Vernon e Jordan Jr endowed chair in civil rights at Howard University law school and one of my 32:33 favorite people to talk to about anything uh but especially the Supreme Court cheryn it's really nice to see you 32:39 thank you for being here thank you Rachel you have been an advocate for a long time um that the 32:46 court needs discipline effectively that the court needs reform that it has behaved in such a way in recent years 32:53 that rightfully call its legitimacy into question and to the public in a way 32:59 that's that's dangerous given the important role of the court in our in our society and in our system of 33:04 government what do you assess as the sort of the weight the heft the 33:09 potential to meet the moment of these reforms proposed today by President Biden well it's going to be a very steep 33:16 clime um obviously this is not something that can be done by Presidential Fiat um 33:22 or by executive order it would require Congress to pass legislation and that means that um obviously this will not 33:29 happen with this Congress but if the next Congress is to take it up it would likely mean you would have to have a 33:34 majority of Democrats in both the house and the Senate and that's why talking about this election it's important to 33:40 not just talk about the president if you want Supreme Court reform but it's also a heavy lift because look Rachel it's 33:46 difficult it's difficult for me as a litigator to um to to talk about these 33:51 kinds of reforms and the need for them but as um a civil rights lawyer as 33:56 someone who believes in democracy and is someone who understands the power of this court not only to hold the line 34:03 and the rule of law but also to get us off the track of healthy democracy the court has done it in the past and I think we have to take very very seriously uh what this court is doing the track that it's on and what it could potentially do to our country it is my sense um that the effort um around the Trump Vance candidacy in the Republican party is in part about trying trying to get them votes but it is in uh significant part about trying to get the election to be contested in some technical way um so that it ends up in the courts for some reason or another because I believe Republicans think as long as it gets into the courts it gets ultimately to the Supreme Court and no matter what is before The Supreme Court they would do whatever was necessary to put Donald Trump back in the White House I say that as a non-lawyer and just an observer of the political processes here and what Republic an have been working on in the lead up to this election can I 35:00 ask if you you share those concerns if you had asked me this question a year ago I might have hesitated um but after the Supreme Court's decision in the 14th Amendment Section 3 case in which uh the court essentially read out of the 14th Amendment the provision that says insurrectionist cannot Serve by coming up with this idea that Congress needs to pass some legislation to make that provision of the 14th Amendment effective uh the Court's decision in um the charges brought by the justice department against many of the uh January 6 uh riers and then of course finally the Trump immunity case the presidential immunity case which is absolutely me mystifying unless you believe what the denters I think the three uh women appointed by democrats have been trying to tell us and their desense have grown ever more uh strident and strong as they have tried to warn us uh that this court essentially is behaving as though it is in the tank for trump it does not matter cour of KLA 36:03 Harris's campaign going on uh black women got the ball rolling first of course there have since been calls for black men and for asian-pacific Islander people and for lgbtq people and uh lots of different groups but tonight's is white dudes for Harris and organizers say 75,000 people RSVP to attend apparently among the attendees was the dude himself Jeff Bridges who said on the call tonight I'm white I'm the dude and I'm for Harris politics ought to be fun occasionally it actually is all right thanks very much for being with us tonight um I have to tell you that uh Lawrence is for speee spee fore speech 38:09 foreign speech speech speech spee on know fore for no e for spee spee for back

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