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RUSSIA PUTIN IN THREAT MODE Turn Left: Putin Threatens Direct War With The West PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG1pj88A8DM Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
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Donate to our Patreon: / turnleftmedia Become a member: / @turnleft Follow Curtis on Twitter: / curtisdaly_ Official Turn Left Twitter Page: / turnleftmediauk Transcript 0:00 tensions between Russia and the West have been escalating in the past 24 hours with Britain stoking Russia's AA in particular Russia revoked the accredit accreditation of six British diplomats that are accused of spying and Putin had some more threats for NATO countries US Secretary of State Anthony blinkin has been discussing the possibility of allowing Ukraine to use long range n uh long range not nuclear longrange missiles inside Russia this would include British French Storm Shadow missiles this comes as Iran steps up its military support to Russia supplying them with drones and now close-range ballistic missiles that's crbm for those who don't know uh for their use in Ukraine according to the BBC Vladimir Putin said that this isn't about allowing or Banning the Kev regime from striking inside Russian territory it does that already with drones and by other means but when we talk about high Precision longrange weapons made in the west this is a completely different matter the Ukrainian Army is not able to 1:00 strike with modern High Precision longrange missiles longrange systems it can't do this it is only possible with intelligence data from satellites that Ukraine doesn't have data that's only from satellites of the European Union the USA NATO satellites the key point is that only servicemen of NATO countries can input flight missions into these missile systems Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this therefore this is not about permitting or not permitting the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons this is about whether or not NATO countries take the decision to directly participate in the military conflict however it seems unlikely that Ukraine is incapable of using them given that Ukraine has been using modified Storm Shadow missiles for over a year after the UK delivered them a small batch in May 2023 later in the day Putin added this will mean the NATO countries the United States and European Union countries European countries are at war with Russia and if is the ca if this is the 2:01 case then bearing in mind the change in the essence of the conflict we will make appropriate decisions in response to the threats that will be posed to us what exactly this means is unclear but Western forces seem largely to be viewing it as a bluff of course if it isn't a bluff that doesn't necessarily mean Putin would jump straight into the use of tactical nuclear weapons as Moscow has cyber warfare interference with undersea infrastructure misinformation campaigns airspace disruption and many other other options at its disposal besides immediately jumping to nuclear weapons on his way to Washington Kiam was asked for his response to Putin and he has said Russia started this conflict Russia illegally invaded Ukraine Russia can end this conflict straight away to reiterate it was Russia who started this in the first place they caused the conflict they're the ones who are acting un lawfully now Aiden I'm of two minds about how seriously we should take the story because on the on the one hand 3:00 Putin does make threats all the time based on red lines that he constantly changes but he has clearly being quite dishonest about Ukraine's capabilities but the risk in risks involved on the other hand are quite high as even a small nuclear exchange or strike in Mainland Europe that got out of hand could be devastating for the environment and cost millions of lives it's a highrisk game to be playing so what do you think about the like inherent danger involved here first of all so I I think there are of course dangers in having you know playing with Russia in this way because Putin is sort of unreliable you can't predict the way he's going to act so I think there are inherent risks in playing with him in this way uh and although saying that there there's only so many times someone can make a threat like this before you really start to think if you were going to do something you'd do it and considering how badly he's done trying to take on Ukraine which is the 18th most powerful military in the world his 4:00 his threats of he'll try and you know take on NATO Which is far more you know economically and militarily Powerful um I just don't think it's really hitting the way he thinks it is um so I think there are inherent risks of course there always are when you're playing with someone like this but I I think they're not so bad that we need to take him too seriously as of yet yeah I I find myself in in Broad agreement with that uh with that analysis um especially he has lots of lots of other u means at his disposal and um analysis of of Yandex over the past couple of years Yandex being like Russia's version of Google um does show that Russians like definitely have doubts about the war they're not fully behind it and the deal they've sort of struck with Putin is we will be behind you in this war we will support you so long as it doesn't start to affect our lives and it is really starting to ref affect the lives of not just the like rural Russians but Russians who are like 5:01 you know in um in City centers now it's it's it's reaching that uh that sort of point when you start talking about like longrange missiles inside Russia like that's the yeah that's the tradeoff there um yeah I don't know actually your thoughts because I'm I'm interested to know um what your thoughts in terms of nuclear disarmament um are you sort of like full uh campaign against nuclear uh c campaign against nuclear discernment cign for nuclear discernment yeah I really want to keep the nukes just keep more nukes everybody now I'm I'm pretty yeah I'm Pro nuclear disarmament just because it's it's it's now it it's just very much a such a select group of of or men let's be honest select group of men pointing guns at each other in a room where everyone else in that room doesn't have a gun and thinks you're gonna miss so please just don't fire it we're better off not having it but I understand this there is that there is it's such a a 5050 isn't it because there's um there's the other side of that aisle where you're like yeah yeah but have everyone having them 6:02 has meant that no one's used them because of the mutually assur destruction and Russia is proof that you can't and North Korea and lots of other countries the America too that you can't trust what governments tell you they're actually doing so true nuclear disarmament I'm Pro but nuclear disarmament amongst this kind of hyper capitalistic military like industrial complex system I don't entirely think is is really entirely possible but I'd be happy to move towards it if we could do that it's uh incredibly terrifying when you realize like I I don't think I think a lot of people think of like nuclear weapons and they think like oh World War II like a single bomb that drops from the you know that drop from a plane drops from the sky there's a big explosion and it takes out like a city um and quite apart from like the size of modern nuclear weapons which are like a hundred times bigger um you've also got the fact that like a modern nuclear warhead um launches uh it launches a and 7:00 then the the Warhead breaks apart and drops like hundred of those bombs across an area and it's just yeah the the sheer Terror of it um I remember going to um uh a talk when I was um in in at Uni um I was doing history and politics and one of the things um I distinctly remember was we had a nuclear weapons expert come in it was a woman who came in um and she gave us the advice that if we're ever in a nuclear you you'll hear lots of rubbish if you're ever in a nuclear strike um but she said the first thing she would do if there was a nuclear weapon going off anywhere near her is run outside wearing black because you burn up the quickest and that is better than the the what follows you know and it's like if that's the advice of the experts like Jesus yeah it's like when you see a guy wearing a t-shirt with I'm a bomb diffuser if you see me running you run too it's kind of that kind of thing yes yeah that is exactly the vibe yeah yeah um I'm interested in uh in what's called virtual nuclear arsenals so um Japan and I think it might be 8:02 South Africa um hold what's called a virtual nuclear Arsenal which is um uh a nuclear Arsenal that can be put together in the event of uh them being struck um but they don't hold a nuclear Arsenal ready to fire um I think that would be like a reasonable step for us in nuclear disarmament to take I don't know what your sort of like view of virtual nuclear Arsenal on that is no that I think you're completely right that is the kind of Step I could see more realistically happening that sounds like something that you could convince people to do because it's a little bit like having a fully powerful fully-fledged Army at all times it's cost doesn't it's not cost effective and it's not reasonable you're better off having an Elite Force and then lots of people that are ready to go should you need to go and that sounds like a similar kind of move and it's the same and also the way that Wars are being fought this these days I think it's kind of an inevitable Next Step because you know the way we the classic like you say the idea of the classic nuclear bomb isn't a thing 9:01 anymore and they're more and more expensive to create and so it doesn't make sense to just constantly have them ready to go it financially speaking which is the language you have to speak to in for these people to listen to you yeah it's absurdly expensive um I'm just going to do uh another quick section so there's another side to this to be considered and that's Iran's motivations for providing Russia with crbm in the first place uh Mark Katz professor of politics and government at George Mason University wrote for the Atlantic Council that Iran has sought S35 fighter aircraft and S400 air defense missile systems from Russia according to the reports but Moscow has not yet delivered them Moscow though will be will be Lo to transfer weapons to Iran that would upset its ability to maintain good relations with Iran's Rivals Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates which could in turn result in their turning closer to the United States and even Israel for support indeed Iran might not might Iran itself might not 10:02 want this to happen Saudi Russian Corporation in the OPEC plus format which keeps World oil prices relatively higher serves Iranian interests too and Katz goes on to say that when while Tran may want Moscow to transfer Su 35s s400s and other weapon systems and Technologies receiving them immediately may not be the Iranian leadership's primary goal the Islamic Republic does not take direct military action itself but prefers to act through small proxies such as Hezbollah the houthis and Iraqi and other Shia militia forces tyan then may see Russia not so much as a great power but as another proxy whose willingness to fight against a common enemy benefits Iran but allows it to avoid the costs of fighting that common enemy itself so Aiden when I read this my mind immediately went to Israel's FL flagrant violations of Iranian sovereignty in the Middle East and the genocide in Palestine I'm generally a supporter of Ukraine and Palestine but I 11:01 can't shake the feeling that allowing Israel to commit genocide in Palestine might be strategically stupid as well as morally abhorent um do do you think this is like to some degree The Fallout from Palestine and that poor Geo geopolitical strategy and could the knock on effects be that Russia has like an even worse relationship with uh the west and and gets us like closer to some sort of conflict that all right might not be a nuclear conflict but might lead to significant escal yeah well of course isn't it I mean the two issues are so intrinsically linked in the way that you watch like the west and Russia and China and all of the players act it's it's so Sim like because the so Sim simpatic like simpatic that's the wrong word symbiotic in the way that these like you can't the West being so pro-israel and then trying to criticize Russia for how they act in Ukraine and in Crimea it's these two things don't work and it's going to cause phrase to happen even more because it's already causing a Fray 12:00 inside the politics of every single nation that that's involved in these um things and so I could see it definitely spilling over and making it even harder to come to some kind of peace treaty with anybody involved in any of these conflicts because no one's acting with complete like um moral uh the word I'm trying to remember I've forgotten but trying to consistency moral consistency no one's acting with right moral consistency so it's going to cause problems for everybody yeah I um I do think uh yeah I think that definitely the case um and it's yes it's that St contrast between uh the the Ukrainian people have a right to defend themselves from Invasion and occupation they have a right to self-determination but the Palestinian people don't yeah um do you think that I mean I think I think this is kind of a an answer that I'd be surprised if you disagree with but do you think there's a um uh there's a a massive uh like bucket load of white 13:00 supremacy involved in that the the difference in the way that we treat Ukraine and the way that we treat Palestine you know I wouldn't actually no yeah of course of course it is of course it is it's an AB it's absolutely so intrinsically linked to the fact that and this is quite a hot thing to say but it's brown people dying and not white people dying that is the thing and we saw that the way that we um welcomed Ukrainian immigrants in or Asylum seekers in to the Western countries of Europe and but shun the idea of any Palestinians moving car it's so it's 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