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- well you got to understand the golf course is surrounded by Shrubbery so some when somebody gets into the Shrubbery they're pretty much out of
- sight all right and at this level that he is at right now he's not the city
- president if he was we would have had to hire a golf course around it but because he's not security is limited to the
- areas that the Secret Service deems possible the sheriff in Palm Beach
- County Florida yesterday describing the security situation at Donald Trump's Gulf course after an apparent
- assassination attempt on the former president this morning there are still a lot of questions about the suspect his
- passed and whether the Secret Service is doing enough to protect Donald Trump we're going to go through all of that
- for now the former president has not made any changes to his campaign schedule meanwhile his running mate made
- the rounds on the Sunday shows defending his and Trump's false claims about
- migrants in Springfield Ohio will play for you those new comments including JD
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- van seeming to admit the stories are made up also I Hadad new polling shows
- the former president's lead is shrinking significantly in a state he's easily won
- in 2016 and 2020 it comes as more Republicans are pledging their support
- for vice president Kamala Harris this fall we'll read for you from uh what a group of former staffers to President
- Ronald Reagan are saying good morning and welcome to Morning Joe it is Monday
- September 16th uh a man is in custody this morning after shots were fired in
- what the FBI is calling an apparent attempted assassination of Donald Trump
- at his golf course in West Palm Beach Florida yesterday shots were fired by all reports from the Secret Service
- toward the man the former president posted on social media last night that he was rushed to safety during the
- incident stating quote it was certainly an interesting day he also thanked
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- Secret Service and law enforcement writing in all capital letters quote the job was done absolutely outstanding
- officials say Trump was playing a round of golf near his maralago home and around 2 p.m. when Secret Service agents
- spotted a rifle with a scope in the bushes outside the course and and and
- they spotted it what what happens is that uh the golf course for those who
- who know the area the golf course is on two very active streets there's a huge
- perimeter and so what the Secret Service do not only now but when Donald Trump
- was President they would Advance the holes and they would go a couple of
- holes ahead of the president to make sure uh that the coast was clear and you
- as you'll hear here even though some of the press conference wasn't as clear as it should have been
- left left some questions open what happened was the Secret Service went a couple holes ahead of the president uh
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- former president and they they saw a a rifle sticking out uh they fired shots
- and then the man uh ran away uh and and he got caught uh soon after but the
- Secret Service though did as horrible of a job as they did in Butler as Lindsey
- Graham said they're overworked they're exhausted they don't have a life of their own they need more resources and
- yes they do need more resources in this case though as Donald Trump said
- they did an outstanding job something I haven't said of the Secret Service certainly after Butler in a very long
- time I'll take a listen fortunately we were able to locate a witness that came to us and
- said hey I saw the guy running out of the bushes he jumped into a black Nissan
- and I took a picture of the vehicle and the tank which was
- great in the bushes where this guy was is a AK-47 style rifle with a scope
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- two backpacks which were hung on the fence that had a ceramic tile in them and a GoPro which he was going to take
- pictures of so the tip from that witness helped lead to an arrest the man was taken into
- custody and was identified as 58-year-old Ryan Wesley Ruth according
- to three senior law enforcement officials his identity was not released during yesterday's news conference Trump
- left the golf course in his motorcade a couple of hours later and headed back to his Maraga Resort that's according to a
- source familiar with the matter a source tells NBC News it will not affect Trump's campaign scheduled this week
- which includes the pl stops in Michigan North Carolina New York and Washington
- DC vice president kamla Harris released a statement that she was quote deeply
- disturbed by the possible assassination attempt of former president Trump today adding that she is thankful that Trump
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- is safe yesterday's incident occurred two months after an attempt on the
- former president's life in July at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania so let's
- bring in NBC News national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent Tom winter also with us
- the host of way too early White House beer Chief at Politico Jonathan lamir and president of the National Action
- Network and host of msnbc's Politics Nation Reverend Al Sharpton so Tom
- thanks so much for being with us a couple of questions just to just to make sure everybody that's tuning in this morning has it clear uh the Secret
- Service going a couple of holes ahead of the president as they do they keep a protective bubble around him uh and that
- the Secret Service this point actually kept that protective bubble around saw a gun uh sticking out of the bushes the
- guy was on the other side of the perimeter he was not on the golf course is that correct he was outside the fence
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- right and before he fired any shots I guess he may have been getting set up that's when the Secret Service fired
- shots at him right that's exactly right Joe so it's still a little unclear whether or not he was able to get off a
- shot or not we don't have any indication of that uh at this point but there were some initial reports of that either way
- it was would have been directed towards the Secret Service and not against the former president Republican nominee to
- your point yes it did does seem like the plan here worked he is not Donald Trump
- is not the president of the United States if he was the president of the United States that street would have been blocked off there would have been
- additional agents uh ahead of uh of of where the president was if again if
- Trump was in fact the president at the time or if it was Joe Biden golfing on that uh on that Golf Course for instance
- in that street where this individual appears to have set up to your point exactly Joe there are a number of busy streets that flank this course and that
- person or at least that street would have been blocked off and that person would have had a really hard time uh getting to that location the suspect's
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- been identified as Ryan Wesley ralth he was born in February of 1966 not clear
- what the potential motive may have been here you're looking at a photo of him I believe this was taken in Ukraine where
- he traveled to in 2022 this individual uh espoused a number of strong Pro
- Ukrainian views and try to implore Americans to travel there to help the ukrainians after they were attacked and
- invaded unprovoked by Russia so that's something that uh that is out out there as far as a political belief his
- criminal history is extensive and that's perhaps an understatement over a 100 charges lodged against him over the
- years and so this morning while there's no initial indication or any sort of evidence uh that this individual may
- have had an accomplice or somebody with him at the golf course yesterday I think there is a big question in law
- enforcement circles as to how he was able to purchase this weapon because it would at least appear or some
- indications that it would have been prohibited by federal law and by state law uh for buying this weapon and if in
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- fact somebody bought it for him because he knew that he couldn't buy one or somebody sold it to him illegally well
- that's a potential additional charge for uh somebody else we do expect him to be charged federally I know somebody who
- regularly appears on this program State's Attorney Dave arenburg yesterday said uh that in fact the feds are going
- to take this over and they are going to move forward with charges I just checked uh as we were starting the program the
- federal court docket in Florida nothing has been unsealed or filed yet that at least we can say publicly but it'll be
- the US attorney's office out of Miami that uh that will likely bring this case yeah with a guy with a wrap sheet this
- long uh it would be very distressing if he were able able to buy an AR15 style
- weapon uh and so perhaps he did get some help there or maybe he did what so many
- other people do by buy their guns illegally um so uh Jonathan lir uh a
- long wrap sheet from this guy he actually in 2016 he supported Donald Trump uh but then it was disillusioned
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- with Donald Trump well before the Ukrainian War the Russian Ukraine war the Russian invasion um and saw some
- some possible support for other Republican candidates in 2024 what do you know yeah you're right there was on
- his social media County it suggested that he had backed Trump in 2016 and then soured on him there was also some
- tweets suggesting some support for Nikki Haley VI ramaswami uh you know and the like uh his politics though fairly
- unclear at this point um and certainly we should give credit to the Secret Service as you did uh Joe that that this
- is you know as much as Butler County went wrong that incident in Pennsylvania two months ago it seems like yesterday they did everything exactly right and
- these are the sort of incidents that do happen from time to time perhaps not as close to the principle like this one was
- where a man actually had a gun and Was preparing to strike but there are instance all the time where Secret Service disrupts these uh sort of
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- incident where they'll they'll arrest someone who posed some sort of threat to the sitting president and Jonathan part
- part of the confusion leading into the press conference yesterday was that there was just some bad misinformation
- that came out very early people came out with with with statements very early it
- started with shots fired uh in the vicinity of Donald Trump suggesting at Donald Trump others there was stories
- for a couple hours that secret service saw the direction in which the shots were fired from and then we find find
- out later though it was jumbled at the press conference we find out later uh
- that uh it appears the only shots fired were from the Secret Service toward the man uh to to get him to do exactly what
- he did right and no shots fired at Trump who at that point was still several holes away uh but was then was rushed to
- safety um by the Secret Service so Tom what more um do we know about this
- individual uh you know and and is there investing we're going you know he the expected Raymond today uh
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- we should learn I would think more than but source is telling you anything about motivation as to why he would have would
- have done this and just also speak to us a little bit more about just the danger that these sort of Lone Wolf kind of ass
- would be assassins pose sure so as far as this individual we're not told he's made any sort of statement apparently he
- was very calm at the time of arrest he's got experience being arrested but he was apparently very Cal at the time that he
- was arrested so there were no statements that were made there according to the folks that we've spoken with uh and Dave
- arberg again said that uh on this network's here last night so there's no indication he's made any statements towards motive as Joe pointed out as you
- pointed out we've been talking about here this morning about the political beliefs and the things he's he's put on Twitter in the past now X things that
- he's put on his Facebook account both of which have been taken down at this stage uh there's all sorts of different
- ideologies or things that he wished happen politically but does that necessarily me mean a motive as it
- pertains to yesterday and yesterday afternoon not necessarily so obviously investigators are going to have to be
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- able to put that together you know you talk about the the Lone Wolf the person who isn't on anybody's radar it just
- taking a step back in the overall picture of security we are less than a mile away here where we're sitting this
- morning from the United Nations and a week from today a week from this morning
- over 100 for uh foreign dignitaries leaders world leaders world leaders that
- are tied up with their countries in war talking about you know Ukraine and Russia what's going on in the Middle East with Israel Hamas and Hezbollah and
- Iran so you put it all together this is an enormous security challenge for the Secret Service that is always a huge
- security challenge for the Secret Service now you've got this backdrop and they can't wait for Congress to start
- appropriating money you know this week or next week they can't wait for uh somebody to come up with a new plan I
- think there are going to be some very serious discussions and I'm told they started last night how does the rest of this presidential campaign work uh with
- these candidates crisscrossing the country uh we are told that the threats to Donald Trump I mean quite obviously
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- here from what we've seen over the past 2 months are very high but his opponent vice president kamla Harris the threats
- to her are very high as well you've got family members you've got running mates for both of those candidates you still
- have a president in the White House who has the nuclear codes and all the things that come with being the
- commanderin-chief who uh deserves and is required by law to have the protection that Joe Biden has and so putting it all
- together what is going to happen here going forward and how much of a lean will the Secret Service have to put on
- local law enforcement how much of a lean will the Department of Homeland Security have to put on its other agencies to say
- these guys need some help they just need bodies out there it's very different than normal law enforcement work so it's
- not something where you can just say okay one day I'm investigating a crime I can switch over to protecting somebody
- no it's very different it's a special skill set and special training but they definitely need additional help it
- appears based on the people that I'm talking to and I think you know you start talking about family members you
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- talk talk about family members that are very much out in the open uh that have protection I think that that's uh uh
- something that's going to take a hard look and what does that mean for our country uh but these individuals that are out there that have sought now twice
- in the last two months uh to uh attempt to assassinate or actually get close to
- with respect to Butler Pennsylvania within a inch or two of perhaps an assassination uh I think raises serious
- concerns for us as a country moving forward if people think can solve their political issues and their problems by
- showing up outside of a golf course with a with a semi-automatic rifle if that's what's going to continue going forward
- then I think that changes things uh in a very negative way well and and you know again this is as as Jonathan alir said
- uh this has happened uh throughout our history unfortunately Gerald Ford had three attempts on his life in the mid
- 70s uh Bill Clinton had one incident after another incident after another incident which actually ultimately ended
- up and the closing of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House these things happen as Tom said M we got 50
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- days threats uh Threat Level is high against Donald Trump Threat Level is
- high against kamla Harris uh the threat level is high uh and right now you know
- again as badly as as they did in Butler Pennsylvania the Secret Service did their job commendably yesterday
- everybody from Donald Trump to the sheriff of Palm Beach County that everybody involved is saying the same
- thing they just need re more resources Lindsey Graham quoted the New York Times today saying that they work around the
- clock they need more resources there need to be more people they've got to figure out a way over the next 50 days
- uh to to to to team up with other law enforcement agencies with local law enforcement agencies and protect these
- presidential candidates uh and then Congress does need to step up and do their job and they need to find the
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- Secret Service adequately NBC News national law enforcement and intelligent
- correspondent Tom Winter thank you very much for being on this morning and still ahead Most Fascinating Fox V you talking
- about other people we love you know Steve's a great guy yeah so Republican Vice Presidential nominee JD Vance
- continues to push false claims and these lies about Haitian migrants who are
- abducting and eating pets in Springfield Ohio let's just say this up no he is
- lying but he's admitting that he's lying well that's true you get extra credit for that or maybe I thought you were
- going to make a joke and I have to say I don't know I'm not making jokes I'm making jokes when people When people's
- lives are at danger damn right yeah so so yeah so he he's
- lying but he's admitting that he's lying right he's like look's transparent look
- I'm distracting you here but it's really the balls over here he believes in transparency here it is the senator from
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- Ohio claimed yesterday in a series of interviews that constituents in Springfield have brought the concerns to
- him when pressed that there is no evidence of people eating pets Vance
- appeared to confess that he knows the claims and are not true not true yeah
- but let's say though when when we say that that officials say there aren't
- any claims only officials that are claiming these claims aren't true or all
- the officials that would know whether they were true or not the mayor has come out and said not true city manager I
- believe it's what they're called in Springfield says not true people begging for this to
- stop and the Republican Governor saying these claims are not true now religious
- leaders saying please stop lying you are putting people's lives in D in danger
- where they come from I don't know let's see American Media totally ignored this
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- stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes if I have to I
- have to create stories so that the American Media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people
- then that's what I'm going to do Dana because you guys are completely letting kamla Harris
- Coast so I so rever now JD van says this is special JD van
- says the American Media wouldn't cover this story I have so they had to make up
- the story if I we're supposed to cover a story that's not true the American Media
- wouldn't cover this story so he said what he say I had to create this story if I have to create stories he had to
- create this cat meme story that would be all cute if it was just Donald Trump uh
- saying that people are eating dogs and cat they're doing remixes he's obsessed with cats uh so U but unfortunately and you
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- hear religious leaders talking about this you hear local officials in Springfield talking about this um there
- is now the threat of violence the fear of violence bomb threats bomb threats
- against uh people in Springfield they have literally had to close the schools and cancel Town Hall
- meetings because of these threats and when you look at the fact that he is
- now admitting they made up a story uh as you say quoting him that the media
- wouldn't cover maybe the media didn't cover it cuz there was no story it didn't exist but again this is
- consistent with uh Trump's campaign let's not forget Donald Trump as president called Haiti and several
- African countries as whole countries you also have to put into the a factor in
- that if you are someone that is anti- Haitians in Springfield or coming in to
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- think you're defending the people of Springfield whose pets are being eaten up any black walking around uh uh
- Springfield looks Haitian I mean it is racist it is a clear threat to people
- and and just like I denounce whoever is trying to assassinate Donald Trump for
- whatever reasons they should denounce the fact that they are in ing nuts to
- feel that they can go into Springfield and save pets that's those kinds of
- jaded thinking is what leads to killings I did the funerals in Buffalo New York
- of a mass killer that felt he had the right to Target blacks I've been to others and did eulogies this is
- dangerous this is a threat to people and the same time we denounce what
- apparently has happened as a threat to Donald Trump we should denounce what is apparently a threat to blacks and
- particularly ha uh Haitians in Springfield in Springfield I mean Donald Trump Donald Trump doubled down on this
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- lie he got H he humiliated himself and uh just really his own campaign staff
- horrified his supporters horrified uh that he he fell for this third rate internet meme Eric Erikson uh
- conservative very conservative radio host uh was just enraged that people around Donald Trump
- did not keep I think he was worried of the time Laura lomer was spreading these lies to Donald Trump uh but he got past
- the debate he went on the campaign Trail and he continued the lies even though he
- knew they were lies that would put uh immigrants and refugees in danger black
- let's be be clear not immigrants from Norway immigrants from Haiti uh in in
- danger uh and Republican governor Republican governor of Ohio Mike dwine
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- yesterday did what you've been seeing of small business owners and Factory
- workers uh do and that is praise the migrant community in fact you actually
- had people running businesses running small businesses in Springfield saying
- this migrant Community is the hardest working Community we have these Haitians
- work harder than than people here they stay at their stations they work hard they
- don't leave early everybody is praising how hard these migrants work uh and this
- is the Republican let me say again the Republican governor of Ohio praising them for their contributions and
- dismissing these continued Vance Trump lies against
- them the Haans who are in Springfield are legal they came to Springfield to
- work Ohio is on the move and Springfield has really made a great Resurgence with
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- a lot of companies coming in these Haitians came in to work for these companies what the companies tell us uh
- is that they are very good workers they're very happy to have them there and frankly that's helped the
- economy look there's a lot of garbage on the internet and you know this is a piece of
- garbage that uh was simply not true there's no evidence of this at
- all you the fact that JD Vance would continue this on live television just uh
- like we said transparently but with with no sense of the damage that
- they are causing to people's lives and somebody is going to get hurt like it's going to be on them for saying these
- things over and over again when they're not true let's bring in NBC News
- National Affairs analyst and a partner and chief political columnist at Puck John hman and MSNBC political analyst
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- Elise Jordan she's a former Aid to the George W bush White House and state department good to have you both so John
- Hilman as the Republican Governor said these uh people these immigrants
- are here legally and they're receiving High Praise for hard work and it shows you
- just how desperate Donald Trump and JD Vance are
- making up these stories and cruel and well and how cruel and and and the danger that they put uh people who are
- in Springfield legally how cruel they are yeah um Joe I mean
- um to to give JD Vance to to to to credit his argument here it's sort of
- like saying that hunger is a problem in America and in order to get the press to
- focus on the problem of hunger the real problem of hunger in America uh I'm going to say that there's you know
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- there's been a a an invasion of of of of zombies or Body Snatchers uh who all to
- make it racist also African Body Snatchers zombies uh who have come and are eating all the food I
- mean he's he's trying to say there's a real problem you know that there's a stress on the community because there's
- been this influx of immigrants uh Mike dwine says there have been some yeah we have 15,000 immigrants here there's been
- some strains on the social safety net um and JD Vance has used that as a as a justification for for just continuing to
- blatantly go around the Sunday shows yesterday and say I'm going to keep lying I I I'm just going to do it and
- and this is my justification it's it's outrageous obviously now let's the real
- the reality here is the Trump campaign is saying to anyone who will listen uh we would rather take the hits from lying
- about this then as long as we're talking about an issue that we think favors us
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- which is immigration rather than talking about other issues which do not favor us such as women's reproductive health and
- abortion and other things they're just trying to keep their their view is they can they don't care about the impact the
- human impact on the ground in Springfield they don't care about uh Laura lomer is the problem here and and
- I mean that not merely in the fact that Laura lomers are crazed hate speech pedling who she is well she's a she's
- she's a one of the most toxic most poisonous people on the far right she
- has ESP spoused if there's a conspiracy theory or a form of hate speech uh that
- has ever been uttered by anybody ever in the magnosphere she has uh propounded it
- she has been banned from Facebook Instagram uh Twitter uh she's been
- banned travels she's been banned from she's been banned from delivery food apps m they won't let her get door dashh
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- because of her hate speech on on on delivery food applications and she has suddenly become Donald Trump's constant
- companion she is everywhere with Donald Trump there are there the The Drudge Report was up for most of the weekend uh
- with photographs of the two of them Donald Trump and and Laura lubert being very handsy with each other and suggesting in very un straightforward
- terms what is on fire on the internet and on Bill Mars show and other places which are suggestions that the two of
- them have a relationship that is a that is running conversations go R yeah no no
- no no evidence of that what is she doing on the campaign there I just just agree
- just to say to Joe I agree there's no there's no evidence of it other than the fact that she is someone who people on
- the Trump campaign do not want on to be traveling with him people Donald Trump's in Donald Trump's orbit do not want to
- have traveling with him marer Taylor green Tom Tillis U uh everyone thinks
- that this woman is bad news for Donald Trump and yet he continues to take her around with him everywhere which raises
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- questions as to why and that is why it's fueling the speculation about what's going on here because there's no good
- political reason to have someone who that's not a reason to deduce that's not
- a reason to deduce an inappropriate I think it deduces that he is making terrible decisions as to how to run his
- campaign because if you say there's a conspiracy theory that she like there's not a conspiracy theory she would avoid
- that she Embraces them and that she pushes them it seems like this turn has taken as her name has come up well I
- think I think the real problems began of course there were concerns that a conspiracy theorist was uh at the debate
- in Donald Trump's group but also of course El leise the real concern on
- September 11th which is basically an American you know day of remembrance one
- of the most sacred that 911 truther would be in Donald Trump's
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- Entourage uh w w with him at the events there um I I want to Circle back though
- again though to JD Vance and uh JD Vance saying something about Springfield that
- the mayor saying is not true the city manager saying is not true and the governor of Ohio is saying not true and
- in fact the Republican governor of Ohio praising these imigrants legal they're
- legal uh which again shows you just how stupid this whole thing is they're
- trying to make some claim against illegal immigration which of course I oppose illegal immigration I'm sure you
- do too these people that they're attacking are there legally and they're
- working harder than a lot of other people in Springfield according to those
- people that are running the small businesses where they work
- now Joe the Haitians in that Community who are hardworking legal immigrants are
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- being used as political fodder for political purposes by this campaign it's
- pretty cut and dry and they're trying to incite the strong feelings around the country about immigration and about the
- state of the economy and so when I was thinking this weekend going a little bit
- past just how insane it was for a presidential candidate to bring up a completely unfounded racist rumor in a
- presidential debate a move that I think was a pretty bad one for him and has
- been reflected in the subsequent polling because he just looks unhinged and not in control I I thought what similarities
- though are we seeing with brexit what are we seeing when 90% of British voters
- when they voted for brexit it was about immigration and what's the anger over immigration in this small town and what
- are the implications RIT large for the broader political ecosystem and what is
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- not being heard from that area I'm not saying let's hear out the inherent racism of what's been trotted around but
- what really are the issues happening there and what does it say about how people are going going to vote this fall
- yeah this is clearly a fight the Trump campaign wants to have even though they're doing so with lies with
- dangerous lies and and certainly the Donald Trump's campaign's most headline grabbing decision yesterday morning was
- Trump a move in all caps to tweet I hate Taylor Swift with an exclamation point
- and certainly that could have some blowback particularly with some young voters but JD Vance doubling and
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