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ELECTION 2024

CNN: Hear Carville react to Trump saying he’s going to remove Haitians from Springfield


Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-x3fxnjjc
Peter Burgess COMMENTARY

Peter Burgess
Hear Carville react to Trump saying he’s going to remove Haitians from Springfield

CNN

Oct 3, 2024

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Former President Donald Trump said that he would revoke temporary protected status — which shields migrants from deportation — for the Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, if he is reelected in November. Hear Democratic strategist James Carville's response.

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Transcript
  • 0:00
  • A new CNN
  • film documents 18 months inside the 2024
  • election from the perspective
  • of one of the Democratic Party's
  • most legendary
  • strategists, James Carville.
  • Here's a preview.
  • There's nothing
  • that says more of the same
  • more than Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.
  • And James believes
  • that, you know, change wins.
  • He reeks of yesterday.
  • Of yesterday.
  • 0:22
  • Yes he is.
  • 0:23
  • So yesterday, if I think of yesterday,
  • 0:24
  • if I think of an old calendar,
  • 0:26
  • I think of George Bush's face.
  • 0:27
  • Someone tell you that America.
  • 0:31
  • One of the things I think in 92,
  • 0:33
  • I think in 2024, who wins really matters.
  • 0:38
  • Very stark right now.
  • 0:40
  • We got this horrible threat of Trump
  • 0:44
  • coming back into office.
  • 0:47
  • We're in unchartered territory
  • right here.
  • A lot of people are confounded by
  • how close the race is.
  • Given President Biden's record
  • and given what we know

  • 1:02
  • about Donald Trump.
  • He admires
  • Biden a lot and
  • thinks he's been a very good president.
  • But it's hard to make the case
  • that Joe Biden can win
  • an easy reelection,
  • because he can't kill
  • the show in the control room.
  • Are you able to hear me?
  • I hear you fine.
  • You got
  • the path to victory is his religion.
  • 1:23
  • That's what he cares about.
  • 1:25
  • How do you get from here to there?
  • 1:27
  • And there has to be winning.
  • 1:29
  • Joining us now,
  • 1:30
  • the raging Cajun himself, James Carville.
  • 1:32
  • James, good to see you.
  • 1:34
  • we'll talk about the film in a moment.
  • 1:35
  • Looks fascinating.
  • 1:37
  • I do want to ask you, though.
  • 1:38
  • Let's jump in
  • 1:38
  • and talk about the news a little bit,
  • 1:39
  • because Donald Trump,
  • 1:41
  • is talking about, how,
  • 1:43
  • you know,
  • 1:43
  • how he wants to handle
  • 1:44
  • those Haitian migrants
  • 1:45
  • in Springfield, Ohio.
  • let's listen to this talk
  • about on the other side.
  • We have to
  • remove the people,
  • and you have to bring them back
  • to their own country.
  • They they are, in my opinion,
  • it's not legal.
  • So you would revoke the
  • temporary protected?
  • Absolutely.

  • 2:00
  • I'd revoke
  • it and I'd bring them
  • back to their country.
  • What if they want them? They.
  • They're not.
  • Well, they're going to receive them.
  • They'll receive.
  • If I bring them back,
  • they're going to receive them.
  • Yeah. James.
  • I mean,
  • I know you've seen a lot
  • in politics over the years.
  • I don't think
  • you has or any really
  • anybody else
  • 2:17
  • really, for that matter,
  • 2:18
  • have encountered
  • 2:19
  • a politician
  • 2:19
  • talking about people eating cats of dogs,
  • 2:23
  • as Donald Trump
  • 2:23
  • was talking about in Springfield, Ohio.
  • 2:25
  • But, I mean, to put that sort of,
  • 2:28
  • to the side for a moment,
  • 2:29
  • this prospect of Trump saying he's
  • 2:31
  • going to just mass deport
  • 2:32
  • all of the Haitian migrants
  • 2:34
  • in Springfield,
  • 2:35
  • what did you make of that?
  • 2:38
  • Well, first of all,
  • 2:39
  • the people of Ohio, of Springfield,
  • 2:41
  • according to the governor
  • and the mayor, are quite happy
  • that, this has been a boon
  • to that, the economy of that town.
  • And, you know,
  • when you start talking
  • about deporting people,
  • how are you going to deport them?
  • I mean, they have certain rights.
  • I mean,
  • I understand that they here legally,

  • 3:00
  • and they have a lot
  • 3:02
  • to return to contribute.
  • 3:04
  • But, you know, the cats and dogs thing,
  • 3:08
  • of course, have been
  • 3:10
  • debunked and shown to be not true.
  • 3:13
  • But since when does he care
  • 3:14
  • about telling the truth? Yeah.
  • 3:15
  • If Haitians are the perfect
  • 3:18
  • target for him.
  • 3:19
  • they're kind of black,
  • 3:22
  • and they come from
  • 3:22
  • an impoverished nation.
  • 3:24
  • They actually speak,
  • 3:25
  • some version of French.
  • 3:28
  • They're just a perfect target for him.
  • 3:31
  • And he doesn't look at any of
  • as human beings,
  • which I think it seems like,
  • their fellow citizens in Springfield,
  • do look at the human beings as they,
  • well, should,
  • yeah.
  • I mean, we've done
  • lots of segments on Springfield, and,
  • I mean, just about everybody we've spoken
  • with has said,
  • you know,
  • that they've been welcomed
  • with open arms in that community
  • and that they've,
  • they've had a positive impact
  • on that community.
  • But, you know,
  • I do want to talk about
  • there's a lot of stuff
  • to talk about, James.
  • I mean,
  • what do you make of Kamala
  • Harris being out on the campaign
  • trail today with Liz Cheney?

  • 4:02
  • Did you ever think you would see a day
  • 4:03
  • where where a Cheney would be out
  • 4:05
  • on the campaign trail
  • 4:07
  • on behalf of a Democratic candidate?
  • 4:10
  • The short answer is no.
  • 4:13
  • And I
  • 4:13
  • tell people, coalition right now
  • 4:14
  • goes from from Dick Cheney to AOC.
  • 4:17
  • So there's a lot of ground for you
  • 4:19
  • in the middle there, people,
  • 4:20
  • I promise you.
  • 4:21
  • look, I think it's important I,
  • 4:24
  • I hope more people sit on the sidelines.
  • 4:27
  • Republican types, you see Trump,
  • 4:29
  • you know, glorifying January 6th.
  • 4:32
  • We see Trump demeaning the military.
  • We know that's a fact.
  • I'm looking
  • I hope more
  • people come out and say Sharpton
  • and the nine over 11 truth is,
  • how can you sit there and go sit down?
  • 11 years
  • my wife did was in a basement
  • of the white House and say, well,
  • that was all an inside job.
  • I mean, it's just
  • it's it's so insane
  • you can't even know where to fit in.
  • This war room
  • was riding around on an airplane with it.

  • 5:00
  • Yeah. It's weird. It's weird.
  • 5:01
  • Jim, it's really weird.
  • 5:02
  • You know, it is.
  • 5:03
  • I mean,
  • 5:04
  • and that that leads me to this question.
  • 5:05
  • James, how is this election so close?
  • 5:08
  • I mean,
  • 5:08
  • we had
  • 5:09
  • this new, filing from Jack
  • 5:11
  • Smith yesterday that lays out,
  • 5:13
  • you know, Donald Trump saying,
  • 5:14
  • so what, that Vice
  • 5:15
  • President Mike pence at that time,
  • 5:17
  • that his life was in danger.
  • 5:18
  • I mean, you know, the stuff
  • 5:19
  • about the cats and dogs and Springer,
  • 5:21
  • I mean, you name it, every day
  • 5:22
  • there's a new sort of headline
  • 5:24
  • filled with outrage over
  • 5:26
  • what former President Trump is saying.
  • 5:27
  • And how is it so close
  • 5:29
  • and and what's your gut
  • 5:31
  • on what's going to happen?
  • 5:33
  • Well, it's the polling,
  • 5:35
  • which is I don't have a
  • 5:36
  • I like poll when I read them.
  • 5:38
  • I think they're trying to get it right.
  • The polling says it's pretty close.
  • I'm not convinced it's going to be close.
  • When we start counting the votes.
  • And you know what happens, Jim,
  • if there's seven swing states
  • and I can't emphasize this enough,
  • the most unlikely scenario
  • is it breaks for three.
  • Usually these elections break in tandem.
  • And I think it's much more likely
  • that those seven swing states

  • 6:01
  • break 5 to 6 one.
  • 6:03
  • so let's wait.
  • 6:06
  • And she does have a it's a modestly
  • 6:09
  • I agree
  • 6:10
  • it's to to close for real conflict.
  • 6:13
  • But she was
  • 6:14
  • we the Democrats are not in the lead
  • 6:16
  • in July mid-July.
  • 6:18
  • We're in the lead now by a little bit.
  • 6:22
  • But I think her
  • 6:23
  • the possibility
  • 6:24
  • that she can build on that
  • 6:25
  • or not to be diminished.
  • 6:28
  • All right.
  • 6:28
  • Let's talk about the documentary.
  • 6:30
  • and you know, this this covers
  • 6:34
  • a lot of ground,
  • especially the 2024 race.
  • And, James,
  • you and I talked about this
  • several times,
  • how you thought
  • Joe Biden was not the candidate,
  • to to win this time around.
  • Why do you think everybody was seeking
  • you out?
  • are you the the Oracle of Louisiana?
  • What's the deal?
  • I don't know, Jim.
  • The truth is that I had a platform.
  • I really thought that

  • 7:00
  • I really, really dug deep into the polls.
  • 7:03
  • I talked to a lot of people,
  • 7:04
  • and I came to a conclusion,
  • 7:06
  • and I was comfortable at that conclusion.
  • 7:08
  • And I didn't think that that Biden
  • 7:10
  • should reconsider his candidacy.
  • 7:12
  • And at the end of the day,
  • 7:14
  • for the good of the country and himself
  • 7:16
  • and everything else he did do that.
  • 7:19
  • But, you know,
  • 7:20
  • I'm going to be 80
  • 7:21
  • this month, and I have some familiarity
  • 7:23
  • with the ravages of old age,
  • 7:25
  • and I don't think it
  • 7:26
  • compatible with the obligations
  • 7:28
  • at the Oval Office.
  • Yeah, yeah, I'm
  • familiar with the ravages of middle age,
  • for that matter. But, you know,
  • but James, you took a lot of shots,
  • though, from inside your,
  • your party, the party that you love,
  • the party that you helped
  • put over the top, in 92, in 96.
  • But you stuck to your guns.
  • Well, I was pretty comfortable,
  • you know, honestly,
  • and I didn't take any shot
  • that I didn't fully anticipate.
  • I mean, I've been around long enough
  • to know

  • 8:00
  • when I started saying this,
  • 8:02
  • that people were going to be
  • 8:03
  • put out with me, and I understand that.
  • 8:06
  • And, you know, it's just a question of
  • 8:09
  • anybody. No one.
  • 8:10
  • No me. No.
  • 8:11
  • I gave this long, hard thought.
  • 8:14
  • But once I pulled the switch,
  • 8:16
  • I mean, I pulled the switches.
  • 8:18
  • You can't, but I don't know what.
  • 8:19
  • But I don't want to go. Bell.
  • 8:21
  • Yeah.
  • 8:21
  • And, you know, I mean, some of the stuff
  • 8:24
  • they would said out and it's bad.
  • 8:26
  • What I didn't know
  • 8:27
  • was heard of this guy since,
  • 8:28
  • you know, the 90s and that kind of stuff.
  • 8:30
  • And that was
  • 8:32
  • if anything,
  • 8:33
  • it was about exactly what I expected.
  • 8:36
  • All right.
  • 8:37
  • James, well, you know, another
  • big part of that special is your,
  • 30 plus year marriage
  • to Republican strategist Mary Matalin.
  • I know, I just think she's the best.
  • And every time I've had a chance
  • to, talk to her,
  • I just think the world of her
  • and both of you. So.
  • Hey, thank you so much.
  • Good luck with the documentary, James.
  • We really appreciate you, as always.
  • I'm. I'm a fishing man.
  • I have a great wine, so. Yes, sir.
  • And I'm
  • so glad
  • that you agreed to participate in this.

  • 9:01
  • This is great.
  • Thank you.
  • Yes, that is always a good thing.
  • Best of luck to James. Thanks a lot.


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