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COMMENTARY THE COFFEE KLATCH ... OCTOBER 12TH 2024 The Musking of Trump \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich and Heather Lofthouse PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVL5rsCHrYw Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
The Musking of Trump? \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Robert Reich 848K subscribers Premiered 106 minutes ago ... October 12th, 2024 The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Join Heather and I to assess the election outlook, specifically the widening gender gap. American women are overwhelmingly for Harris; men — especially those without college degrees — are for Trump. What does this mean? Meanwhile, Elon Musk and Trump have become the nation’s most dangerous bromance. Each wants what the other possesses: Trump wants vast wealth and a social media platform that reaches billions; Musk wants more power. We also explore how many voters who say they “still don’t know enough” about Kamala Harris are hiding their own misogyny and racism. Transcript 0:01 and it is the Saturday coffee clutch with Heather loft house and yours truly Robert R and Heather what do we have on our agenda today good to see you we have an election update the budding Bromance between musk and Trump they were all heart my heart I know we're all having witness how about the recovery uh in terms of hurricane Milton what's happening and then we're going to pull something from the archive this is my favorite thing to do is to torture you with something from the past let's not go there right now but we will um in terms of the election give us what you know it's only little three and a half weeks away 24 days feels like hours you know I'm I am a little can I just say I'm a little nervous I am nervous oh I am defin I think I'm actually we should put nodes on us and track it I mean definitely nervous a lot of people say to me you know I'm fairly conspicuous when I walk walk on the street and people come up to 1:01 me strange people who I don't know uh and they say what are we going to do is it okay are we going to survive and your answer we'd love to hear it well us exactly we'll get we'll get to it okay so so we go through some of the polls because there it turns out they're about a poll a minute these days so on average we're seeing that Harris is up right in many ways on the popular vote at the national level and I'm loving to see that some polls say she's not um and then can we talk about the Senate polls because those are scary to me including in swing States also the swing state polls with regard to the presidency uh when I last looked and you've looked more recently than I have Harris was up slightly but uh not in every swing state right uh and also within the margin of error this is the the name of the game this year the the southern four yeah of those swing States 2:01 uh Trump was doing better than Harris when I last looked he has been but in the northern Rust Belt uh swing states she has a slight Edge uh if she continues if she won in those states that is we're talking about Wisconsin Michigan and Pennsylvania she could win she could get 270 electoral votes but it's still very close and Pennsylvania is the big big arena right that's where everybody you saw Obama there two nights ago he was pretty fantastic I thought he was great so great I mean in the same world let's think about the Coalition she's building I mean she's got President Clinton President Obama Liz Cheney Mark Cuban I mean all of these Bill Crystal so she has Republicans she has big business people you wouldn't necessarily think would be behind her and maybe trouble down the line but it's kind of an amazing 3:01 Coalition isn't it well it is and she has women but there is an extraordinary gender gap in this election a larger than I think it's a gender I say Chasm I say Chasm well who's right I say Chasm chm can someone tell us in the comments I'm sure Bob's right um no I'm probably wrong but but this is no seriously this is I mean young men are for Trump uh non- colge middle-aged men are for Trump um older men uh tend to be trumpers particularly if they're not College uh but you have a kind of a uh more of a I don't know how to describe it a testosterone uh kind of movement here uh than I've ever seen before did you see Steven Miller who's one of Trump's you know many AIDS and confidants and 4:00 advisers was on Fox news this week and he said I have it written down somewhere he said you've got to vote Trump because that means you're a man and your dating life is going to be amazing and that's what you have to do and if you don't then you're a real beta beta yeah as in beta and I was like you can say it better because it's the way you say it better is it's beta well it's also I mean Vance has made it very clear that he is using misogyny I mean the the cat ladies remark and all the other things he's he's got into u i mean this is It's remarkable to me if if kamla Harris is going to win it is because of women uh let's make it very very clear uh and if she loses it's because of men women need something else on their list to do I mean we need you know let's just you know we're having the babies we're not able to have a Bo yes we'll do the voting too but you're right and I think women will show up I guess my question for Bob is so I feel like we are feeling 5:02 kind of a determination on our side and it's do the people who does that anti-trump determination and pro you know Freedom determination is that the same and that enthusiasm does that match what the Trump followers have I mean we have they're leaving his rallies early I mean maybe he is just a TV star and they'll sit on the couch and they won't actually vote with the same strength and passion and numbers well I wish that were the case I wish that were the case but um the Trump has demonized I mean one of his great talents sadly frighteningly as a demagogue is to demonize and he's demonized Harris uh and a lot of the focus groups and a lot of the pro you know you can't know exactly where people are uh but the suggestion is that people um who are against to really hate her uh 6:01 as much as those who hate Trump hate Trump which is absurd I mean there's no equivalence at all between the two uh and then you have somebody like Elon Musk who is coming in he's you know the richest person in the world coming into Pennsylvania which is the epicenter of much of this campaign right now uh on the ground of pushing huge amounts of money into a ground going around I I mean I you know with me inequality the one one of the worst aspects of inequality uh and what we've seen in the second Gilded Age uh is the ability of a handful of people uh to put so much money into an election that they are actually turning their wealth into political power that is the end of democracy if that's what it comes to and I think Elon Musk is the 7:00 worst uh essential um exponent of this I know and he it's so interesting so he owns he's taken over X right and he is putting out so much disinformation but he is kind of younger than Trump and richer than Trump and so they have this perfect come together yes each one has what the other lacks uh that is and desperately wants and desperately wants I mean Trump wants money he he wants to be the richest person in the world he wants a platform can you imagine if he had x uh he wants to be able to have complete freedom to do whatever he wants to do and Elon Musk wants the power that Trump has or may have if he is elected uh the two of them together uh I think are in some senses the most frightening combination of people uh in the world I mean yes put 8:00 Putin to one side Putin in his covid test but unfortunately Putin is is is not that far from Trump we now know it's so scary it's so scary to watch the two of them so when they launched remember when they were on Twitter X whatever it is do you think Elon will ask Trump to change his name to X yes obviously that's one part of the quid pro quot it's the art of the deal I'm sure he would do it oh it's a great name it's the best name it's the best name it's a beautiful name it's a I love that name um but it's uh but it is deeply troubling uh to everything that we understand about democracy and I think it's a deadly combination in terms of the way the internet works and radicalizing people and this cultural Warrior ISM it kind of it's a perfect storm for all of this online stuff of young men I think you're right women have to come out um women of color I mean again let's put the burden where 9:01 the burden has already been it's like you know life is tough and now we're like can you do you mind coming out again I know we've done this in 2020 and we said it before but we have to keep on coming out and I think women will well I 95% of Americans uh know who Trump is and 90% have made up their minds about Trump uh but 25% don't know uh who come Harris is they say uh and they say they need to know more now she has been doing interview after interview after interview uh but she's not sa satisfying the media I don't know if you saw uh just uh this week Michael Bender Who is a political correspondent for the New York Times came out with a very critical piece about kamla Harris that she's not responding with all cander to the specific questions the media is asking her as if he's holding her to a standard 10:04 that nobody is holding Donald Trump to I mean Donald Trump just you know refuses to debate he refuses to go on 60 Minutes again he refused to he come he only will respond to people correspondents from media that are friendly to him uh or individuals who have you know who have supported him um I mean and when he he does answer it's a it's a gush it's a it's a salad of um incoherent blad y uh said that word salad of course but so why why why are is there this double standard I mean we've just normalized it and he goes on for two hours of lies and meanders and he's doing a thing where and I don't know because I turns out I'm not a physician or a psychologist but he's doing a thing where he thinks that you are tra following what he's saying and he 11:01 doesn't finish the sentence and then he I mean it's you know he's right I me you're like I don't know what you just am I supposed to know what you just said this is one of the problems of of of narcissism particularly malignant narcissism because you cannot possibly understand what other people are understanding about what you are saying and you don't care so you just that's where the sour that's where the gush comes from uh but it's getting worse it really is getting worse I do think sometimes the media there have been some examples of them being better about the San washing I do think I do think not enough and you can so many people do these polls where they say this is what the New York Times and everyone did on this and this is what they did on Hillary Clinton's emails but this is what they're doing on Post January 6th but Heather wor are three weeks from the election I mean it's it's it's one thing if we were three months from the election but three weeks I know 12:00 uh and KLA Harris has been trying to get her voice heard uh and Donald Trump doesn't want her to do this that's why he's filling up all the atmosphere with as much controversy and then you have uh these storms coming in uh and he uh puts out uh on X and every other place uh not only misleading information but really misinformation that is lies that are determined to mislead people that are crafted to mislead people uh that becomes the story uh Biden responds to those uh and then where is Harris's voice in all of this I know and so not only is he lying about what's happening with the Hurricanes Helen and now Milton but then you look back at his record he lies about his record but he you know cut every federal emergency account that he could excessively over time I mean 13:00 there's so many great graphs every time he does a lie it's incredible how all the people who really aren't in the media find on Twitter and show you you know the debunking and and this is what the art of the con really is about and if we don't know it after being exposed to Donald Trump for almost 10 years uh with four years of those being uh during his administration seeing how he projected his fears and lies onto other people uh you know this is exactly what he's doing no uh and he's not going to change in the next three weeks obviously no and neither are the Americans who plan to vote for him no uh so kamla Harris has got to continue to pick off as many people as possible yes we've said it over and over again women are going to be absolutely critical what worries me a little bit honestly is racism and M you don't say uh because uh a lot of the 14:02 people who say we don't know enough about KLA Harris I think they are just maybe fooling themselves U and not wanting to admit to their own misogyny and racism I know and and you know there was the Bradley effect with mayor Bradley in Los Angeles we've talked about that but we've had a president we had President Barack Obama I think time I have to think times are different and that she's going to win well from popular and otherwise popular and electoral from your lips to God's ears can we talk about the um hurricane Milton and the fact that it has obviously disproportionately affects um lower income people in terms of the housing and the infrastructure and where they're living but also in terms of the economic shocks but it wasn't as bad as everyone forecasted so that was a relief right it was a relief but it also takes the pressure off all of us to do 15:00 something about the underlying cause of all of these hurricanes uh including Helen and Milton uh and that is global warming climate change uh it has not been an issue in this campaign uh people are not terribly interested in it big oil and the power of big oil and maybe the media uh because the media also gets a lot of money from Big energy companies uh whatever the source whatever the source of the IND difference uh I think that it's there's a deep hypocrisy in getting so concerned about hurricane milon or hurricane Helen and and where it's going and what it might do and the storm surges but doing saying nothing about the underlying reality of climate change right you mean the presidential candidates aren't focusing on it and the mainstream media isn't focusing on it nobody is focusing on it it's not there right but this time it's so usually in kind of climate Communications after 16:01 there's a disaster that's a time where you can get into people's brains but right now everyone's brains are all over the place with the election so what I think we have to do this is going to be wild is get kamla Harris elected and she'll actually do some stuff on Renewables and everything else related to The Climate whereas Donald Trump has eliminated the climate in Project 2025 on page 423 I'm sure 424 as well um but uh look the I mean the inflation reduction act had and has a lot of incentives for nonfossil fuel in it and a lot of those incentives are all already underway yeah uh and it's a very important thing for her and Biden to brag about y uh but uh it still needs more Y and we are on a kind of climate catastrophe course now you may be right people are just overwhelmed there's too much you know I come across people who don't 17:01 want to talk about politics oh can you give me their numbers what are they talking about anything interesting well they're talking about culture they but they don't want to talk about politics because they're overwhelmed completely overwhelmed and I understand that uh I wake up some mornings and say oh I don't want to think about Donald Trump uh but we have got to in this home stretch I know it so this week the we got some new numbers inflation is Cooling and by some metrics we are doing phenomenally well in this country including compared to other countries post pandemic and that kind of thing tell us the FED deserves a lot of credit uh the FED uh originally cranked up interest rates to 5.3% and then now is starting to lower interest rates there were some economists uh Like Larry Summers who said you have to crank up interest rates much higher and many more people have got to be thrown out of 18:00 work oh Larry Summers was wrong and the FED uh was stuck to its guns it was very I think that um Jerome Powell uh does deserve a great deal of credit and the entire fed uh and a very stimulative uh fiscal policy at the same time was was part of the package it worked and let's take some Solace from the fact that it does seem to be working the climate is doing much better uh the the climate is doing better but climate is not doing better no the the economy is doing better but what I wanted to get into uh on this issue of the economy uh was why so many people still believe it is so bad yes uh and I think that that has to do with big corporations keeping prices up uh and this is why the anti-rust and anti-monopoly agenda of the Biden Administration is so important why Lena 19:01 Khan at the Federal Trade Commission is so important Jonathan caner at the anti-rust division of the justice department is so important uh and um even though know Mark Kubin Cuban Cuban Cuban um says he wants to get rid of Lena Khan uh if if kamla Harris is elected and he's a major surrogate for KLA Harris um he's wrong but also he's funny about this because he also is thrilled with what Harris is saying around Pharmaceuticals because he has this company where he's getting out generics at very low prices so he likes what she plans to do with pmbs I forget what that stands for feel free to put in the comments um so it's funny yeah he wants to get rid of Lena Khan but then also he's loving the antitrust stuff as it relates to the business that he's in um it's an interesting mix but so many people Bob there's this big circle of anxiety I think and within that circle 20:00 is financial anxiety you know and I think it's not just I mean I think it's the poorest of the poor it's low-income folks who have three jobs and of course it is I also think it's people who have even a little more money who are worried about Healthcare about their parents health care who are worried about housing who are worried about Job stability who are worried about these industries that are kind of crumbling and the mom and pop shops that are still closed but Donald Trump has has something for you if you're in that particular conundrum tariff that's going to ruin he has a Bible he has a Bible that he's selling for $59.99 if his signature is in it it's $11,000 that Bible was and is being put together in China oh so that if well it'll be an interesting question if unfortunately he becomes president is he going to lift a tariff on own his own Bible and by the way it would be the 21:02 cost of producing that Bible $3 in China so that could be a violation of what anti-dumping or even antitrust or anti trumping anti- trumping I think we need a video on this well it could be wow you first of all you've done your research on the Trump Bible Well I'm I'm interested in it because horrific it's not only a Bible but he put the Declaration of Independence in there and he put the constitution in there I mean he he knows how how to create a deal he did yes no he didn't yep and it cost him you know what it cost motivational quotes at the end the content cost him zero of course it's not his own content nothing's been his own content except the Dil but the production production $ price gouging price gouging of course it's price gouging but so I liked Obama talked a lot about this the con man he's 22:00 selling you stuff how can you trust someone who is constantly selling you stuff and putting his name on the Bible next to Luke it was a good it was a great speech I'm still thinking about it do we have anything else that we want to talk about on our list oh I remember let's do a from the archive segment we have found something from the beginning of the internet basically not quite Al Gore wasn't there but um I'm excited to show this to was I an adolescent not an adolescent but a young man and it's fun to see let's go hi my name is Robert r u i was Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton uh and uh now I'm here with you uh it's March 7th 2007 this is the first of my video blogs uh it may be the last uh I'm not sure yet I'm sure that it is my first and uh there may be 23:00 nobody out there listening and that's okay I mean I talk to myself all the time uh you know I do television once or twice a week I the the problem with television is I'm usually on these yelling shows I mean I just yell and somebody yells back at me most people out there can't even hear what's going on and uh also producers don't like me to say sometimes exactly what I know and would like to share with you so this is an opportunity I can talk to you about economics what's really going on in my view uh I can also talk to you about politics I know all of the candidates some of them very well uh I've even uh dated one of the candidates okay I'm so sorry embarrassing that was embarrassing You' you've now done it you've embarrassed me really you did oh I think it's fabulous this was 2007 nobody was listening nobody was listening no well we found it 24:01 so Vall on our team was listening wait but so do you remember recording that one no that's so funny I have no memory of that at all and might be your last one I don't think so because then we found you and made you make a lot of videos well that's right this is in fact the this podcast is sort of a direct lineal descendant of that of that Vlog do we even say Vlog anymore I don't know I don't say it that was your good that you let us torture but who is the candidate who I dated once I'm assuming it was you've told the story I mean oh God whoops Hillary Clinton you went on a date with we were 22 she was 21 yeah I was 22 and um yeah just one date introduced you to Bill or Bill introduced you to her no I introduced her to bill her to Bill that's what it was yeah so good well what I didn't know what I was doing I didn't know what I was doing in that video blog either you're natural I'm I'm not a natural you are a natural thank you thank you I'm 25:02 off to celebrate my child's 12th birthday today congratulations olly congratulations oh you're sweet and Heather congratulations and all of you congratulations we've got a little bit more than three weeks until what is likely to be and I know we have said this many times before the most consequential election for American democracy and democracy around the world as we've ever had so keep the faith keep the promise uh keep your wits and uh your strength we'll see you next Saturday [Music]

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