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Inside With Jen Psaki 10/21/24 FULL HD | 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Breaking News October 21, 2024

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  • 0:01
  • okay right now we are preparing to look at live pictures out of Brookfield Wisconsin we're just moments from now
  • Vice President kamla Harris will sit down with former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney for their third
  • moderated conversation of the day and we will definitely keep a close eye on that we'll bring it to you we're want to talk
  • about it it's a big deal it's been a big day before that event kicks off I just want to pause in the significance of
  • this for a second because I think it bear is repeating I mean even four years ago I could not have imagined I'm
  • betting you could not have imagined Liz Cheney sitting on the stage with a democratic nominee and this is their
  • third event today in a third swing state just two weeks out from the election and
  • I know there is a lot of anxiety out there believe me I see people on trains I see people in elevators everywhere a
  • lot of concern about every up and every down in the polls about turnout these are the questions everybody's talking
  • about concerned about everything that's that's that what what happens two weeks out from an election but just take today

  • 1:04
  • in for a moment because what today really speaks to is the unity among a
  • broad Coalition of people people who definitely do not agree on everything but who have been brought together
  • because of their deep concern about a second Trump presidency and about the threat that he poses to our
  • country you have to choose in this race between someone who has been faithful to
  • the Constitution who will be faith faithful and Donald Trump who it's not
  • just us predicting how he will act we watched what he did after the last election we watched what he did on
  • January 6th and I know how how quickly democracies can unravel um and I know
  • that as Americans we um can become accustomed to thinking well we don't
  • have to worry about that here um but I I tell you again as someone who um has
  • seen firstand and uh how quickly it can happen um that that is what's on the

  • 2:04
  • ballot so that threat that Liz chainer just talked about I mean we've been reminded of that threat over and over
  • and over again largely by Trump I mean in the last several days that threat has really been crystallized As Trump
  • continues to talk about going after who he calls the enemy from within and that
  • phrasing isn't a fluke or a slip of the tongue he's been given many opportunities to walk it back but he
  • doesn't he keeps repeating it because he really believes that people living within the very country he is running to
  • represent POS a bigger threat than anything on the outside it has in many
  • ways this whole argument become the closing message of his campaign and one of the people Trump keeps calling out as
  • his enemy happens to be my first guest tonight congressman Adam Schiff well I always say so we have two
  • enemies we have the outside enemy and then we have the enemy from within and the enemy from within in my opinion is

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  • more dangerous than China Russia and all these countries but the thing that's tougher to handle of these lunatics that
  • we have inside like Adam Schiff Adam Shifty shiff think of this guy's going to be a senator it is the enemy from
  • within and they're very dangerous they're marxists and Communists and fascists and they're sick I use a guy
  • like Adam shiff cuz they made up the Russia Russia Russia hooks Adam Shifty shiff he's a crooked guy he's a crooked
  • politician 100% And he's going to be a senator now can you believe it uh but again he's a political opponent of your
  • the enemy no he's a well he is of course he's an enemy he's an enemy we have a bigger problem from within and they ate
  • it I noticed uh today they were saying he said the enemy from within of course
  • it's Adam Schiff these are bad people these are sick people and bad people
  • well we do know that congressman shiff is definitely living rentree in Trump's head but that language is also so

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  • alarming and because it's so common these days from Trump it's easy to get numb to it and it's easy to convince
  • yourself that has nothing to do with you easy to think his threats are only directed at his political opponents and
  • public figures you know people like Adam Schiff or Nancy Pelosi but they're not I
  • mean sure Trump is calling those people out by name right now so there's a significance to that but when he talks
  • about the Enemy Within he's not just talking about a handful of his political opponents he's really talking about a
  • broad swath of people he's talking about any woman who wants to have an abortion or the doctors who might provide it he's
  • talking about immigrants vowing to launch the largest domestic deportation operation in American history and even
  • legal immigrants who Trump would denaturalize and Deport to countries they barely know he's talking about
  • members of the lgbtq plus Community like transgender Americans running on rolling back their rights he's talking about
  • people who used to work for him who dared to disagree with him some of whom he has insinuated at times deserve exec
  • ution talking about journalists and elected officials and federal workers and schools and peaceful protesters and

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  • any Rank and file voter who he deems a threat to his political Ambitions I mean he's talking about so many Americans and
  • he may very well be talking about you so I know when you hear these sound bites of trump calling high-profile Democrats
  • his enemy it might be easy to tune it out or think it won't really impact you I think n that has nothing to do with me
  • but it's important to hear them within the full context of who he is and what he has said said before because there's
  • a very real possibility that it does impact you or your sister or your son or your neighbor and as unbelievable as it
  • might sound it's important to realize why Trump is saying this over and over again he's saying it because he is
  • trying to condition the American people ahead of his possible second term to think about his enemies as people who
  • were bad who were less than who deserve to have their rights threatened if you
  • say something enough people will eventually believe it right and if people people believe it then whatever happens to them whatever he might do to

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  • punish them will be okay the Atlantic say apple bomb put it like this quote if
  • you connect your opponents with disease illness and poison blood if you dehumanize them as insects or animals if
  • you speak of squashing them or cleansing them as if they were pests or bacteria
  • then you can much more easily arrest them deprive them of Rights exclude them or even kill them if they are parasites
  • they aren't human if they are Vermin they don't get to enjoy freedom of speech or freedoms of any kind and if
  • you squash them you won't be held accountable that is what Trump is doing
  • that is his goal and if you don't believe it just listen to this from his running mate JD
  • Vance he's asked about these enemies within comment and I've read all of it
  • I've listened to all of it it's hard for me to know what he really means about it but that that's not my question my
  • question is why is it necessary well bill first of all Donald

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  • Trump is unfiltered I think this is one of the reasons why the campaign has gone well is because he's not doing a
  • basement campaign strategy he's not just running on slogans when people ask him questions he speaks from the heart he's
  • just speaking from the heart just speaking from the heart over and over again so I guess once again as we often
  • say let's take him at his word joining me now as Democratic congressman Adam Schiff he's now a candidate for US
  • Senate Congressman it's great to see you but I just wanted to start by asking you about today as I just started saying I
  • think it's important to take a step back and realize the significance of the vice president a democratic nominee sitting
  • on the stage with Liz Cheney you know them both well what what were you thinking when you when you uh were
  • watching today well just how remarkable a
  • spectacle it is to see the two of them together and not just Liz Cheney but Dick Cheney as well supporting uh a
  • Democrat for president K Harris for president but I'm not surprised that Liz Cheney is stepping up this way she has

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  • demonstrated over the last several years that she has real spine she has real
  • character that she's willing to live uh her principles her oath of office and what has been so tragic about the last
  • several years is just how rare the Liz chenies and Adam kinzinger turned out to
  • be I would have thought many more in the Republican Party would have stood up spoken out uh many are starting to now
  • uh and I think Liz has really leading the way to that point Congressman it's such a good point because she has not
  • avoided threats she's not avoided criticism she lost her political seat because of this at the same time well
  • she is dealing with all of that you've been called out by Trump so many times you're still out there publicly talking
  • and so my question to you is why can't people like John Kelly Jim Mattis Mitt Romney and others speak out is it fear
  • is it something else um and are you disappointed I am disappointed that Mo are not

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  • speaking out uh there's you know all of bush world really uh George W bush and
  • the you know hundreds of people that were close to him in his administration uh that still could speak powerfully to
  • the Republican party in Republican base uh they've chosen to remain silent they don't want to get sullied by Donald
  • Trump uh they don't want to you know take all of the kind of incoming sleev
  • from the Trump enablers uh and while I can certainly understand that our
  • democracy is on the edge here uh we have a candidate for president who's talking
  • about unleashing the military against his domestic opponents this is not the time to be squeamish people need to
  • stand up and be counted and I hope more will follow the example of of Liz Cheney
  • and Dick Cheney yeah no no question about it and there's some people who could do that I mean I just played
  • several Clips I don't know if you saw of trump going after you by name I know you've said he lives you you live rree
  • in his head I think that's fair but are you ever afraid for yourself or your family and how do you factor that

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  • in well you know I think you have to be concerned when you have someone running for president who is singling you out as
  • an enemy to be dealt with by the military because that kind of crazy talk reaches people who are unwell but look I
  • think the candidate himself is unwell he seems increasingly unhinged uh detached
  • from reality uh in his conduct of his campaign in his OB seen references during his campaign in his dancing in
  • instead of giving interviews on the campaign stage uh so we're seeing a lot of very erratic Behavior which would be
  • okay if it was your crazy grandpa your crazy old grandpa but this is a candidate for president but more than
  • that uh to have an American candidate for president nominee talking using the
  • language of a Kremlin dictator or a South American dictator or any other dictator uh is unheard of in American
  • politics uh and poses real threat to the health of our democracy yeah and I wanted to

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  • ask you one of those specifics you already referenced I mean he's talked about using the military against the
  • enemy from within which in my view is quite a broad swath of people he obviously wouldn't have that power to do
  • unless he's elected but I wonder what you think about that possibility and you know you could likely be a new member of
  • the Senate how how are you and others preparing for that possibility well I'm uh preparing for a
  • Harris presidency which I think is the most likely outcome but is of course very close and you know should the worst
  • happen and he once again have access to the levers of power uh we're all going to have to do everything we can to
  • defend our democracy and our institutions because during the four years he had an office uh he drummed out
  • all the people of any Independence or stature who might stand up to him and replac them with utter sick offense and
  • he would start with the other sick offence um but I think the point you made at the top is such an important one
  • Jen that uh he may be singling out particular people or groups right now uh

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  • you know he's moved on for the moment from uh smearing the Haitian Community
  • to going after me or Nancy Pelosi or others but tomorrow there's no telling
  • who it will be what group it will be uh whether he will uh encourage his enablers in state government or local
  • government to turn after their local political opponents or people who are expressing themselves in criticism of
  • their government or his policies so this is a I think a danger to the whole
  • country and just what Harris has been pointing out we need a president who will bring us together not one who want
  • to cast wants to cast anyone who disagrees with him as an enemy Within no
  • question and I just so everybody we're we're obviously watching the start of the event we're going to bring that to everyone we're going to listen to that
  • in just a moment but I wanted to ask because I think everybody's tuning into this we're just 15 days out from the election and hopefully they're tuning in

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  • to kind of the Trump possibilities here which is one of the reasons I love talking to you about it one of the things you've talked about is that the
  • fact that now that the so-called guard reels Trump made have had during his first term won't be there and I just
  • wanted to play specifically with Congress is one of the things I think there isn't enough focus on I wanted to play this exchange with house Speaker
  • Mike Johnson when he was oppressed when he was pressed yesterday about Trump R and then defended
  • it I mean I've had colleagues in the house say he must be eliminated he must be extinguished he's literally talking
  • about milary against Democrats I mean he's literally talking no he's not no no
  • he's not Jake no he's not no he's talking about using the National Guard in the military to keep the peace in our
  • streets and I I wanted to raise this because he Trump needs enablers right he needs enablers within the White House
  • but also in Congress in order to do what he wants to do and the January 6 committee and all of your work raised
  • this issue extensively so what should people understand from listening to that

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  • about I guess how far his party will let him go well I think what people should
  • understand for Mike Johnson who wants to remain speaker who feels that he needs
  • Trump's support to remain speaker he will do anything say anything uh he will
  • defend the indefensible he will tell you what Donald Trump is saying is not what he is saying he'll sacrifice everything
  • uh Robert Carrol the historian once said that power doesn't corrupt his much as it reveals well it's revealing Mike
  • Johnson to be who he is someone desperate to be in power um it revealed
  • Liz Cheney to be a person of great courage and conviction but it revealed so many JD vces the people who once
  • described Trump as a potential Hitler or cultural opioid as being utterly Craven
  • now desperate to be on this unfit ticket uh and uh what it does tell us is we're
  • going to need uh a democratic majority in House and Senate I think part of the reason he goes after me and you could

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  • tell upset he is that I might be in the US Senate he doesn't want people in the senate or the house standing up to him
  • but uh should the worst happen we will stand up to him but I'm confident the best is going to happen uh and vice
  • president Harris will be our next president Congress Madam Chef always enjoy talking to you thank you so much
  • for taking the time and to that end uh coming up we're going to dip into K Harris's event with Liz Cheney and
  • Wisconsin where the unlikely Duo is making their case about the threat Donald Trump poses to our democracy
  • we're going to show it to you live in just 60 seconds we've been monitoring this event
  • with KLA Harris and Liz Cheney in Brookfield Wisconsin it's being moderated by MSNBC contributor and
  • conservative commentator Charlie syes you can see him on the screen right there this is Cheney and Harris's third
  • event of the day together each of them has been fascinating they've all been in swing States so let's listen in for a
  • bit that he is increasingly unstable but you don't have to take my
  • word for it listen to the people who know him best the people who worked with him in

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  • the White House in the Oval Office in The Situation Room his former Chief of
  • Staff two former secretaries of defense his secretaries of defense his former
  • National Security advisor and of course his former vice president and they have each talked
  • about the the chief of staff that Donald Trump has contempt for the Constitution of the United States not only has that
  • been said by a former Chief of Staff of the former president but we know he has openly talked about his intention to
  • terminate the Constitution of the United States I have taken that oath six times
  • as district attorney twice elected and reelected as Attorney General of the largest state in California twice as
  • United States Senator and actually now as vice president and the congresswoman and I have talked about that that is an
  • oath one must take seriously it is a duty to defend and honor and uphold the

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  • Constitution of the United States he has said he would terminate it anyone who wants to be president of the United States should never again be able to
  • stand behind the Seal of the president of the United States having said they would terminate the
  • Constitution of the United
  • States and again most recently the report is that
  • the former chairman of the joint Chiefs of Staff a decorated General said of Donald Trump
  • that he is fascist to the core these are the people who know him
  • best people who worked with him and so yes we can talk about that moment on
  • stage of the music and all that but um I think it's very important that we
  • acknowledge and I have said publicly Donald Trump is an unserious man
  • and the consequences of him ever being president of the United States again are brutally serious brutally serious I to

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  • to to the congresswoman's point I have now as vice president of United States met over 150 world leaders presidents
  • Prime Ministers chancellors and Kings many of them multiple times we are on a firstname basis most of them allies in
  • connection with NATO and and I've met with them in connection with our standing rightly with Ukraine
  • the world is watching this election and our allies are
  • worried because the reality is that when we as the United States of America walk in these rooms around the world we walk
  • in chin up shoulders back with the earned and self-appointed authority to
  • talk about the importance of democracy and rule of law and being a role model this is a
  • room of role models we know as a role model people watch

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  • what you do to see if it matches up to what you say one of my very real fears Charlie to
  • be candid is I hope that we as the American people fully understand how important
  • America is to the world I hope we really really understand
  • that because this is about what will happen to and and with us as Americans
  • but it will impact people around the world let me follow up on that um congresswoman because I was on a podcast
  • recently with with another pundit who was saying that she was afraid that America was sleepwalking into
  • authoritarianism that American voters were not sufficiently alarmed as the
  • vice president just said the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff just said that Donald Trump was the most dangerous threat facing the
  • country do America in this last 15 days do they understand that and what has to

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  • happen in the next two weeks for them to really understand the danger yeah I I
  • think that they they think they do and you know one of the things I I remind people is that um although not every
  • Republican who is casting a vote for vice president Harris will say publicly that they are there's clearly you know
  • uh a threat associated with that in some instances um but but Millions will and
  • and they will do that for a whole range of reasons but but what You' mentioned is so important I mean when I think
  • about uh you know I the first time I ever voted was for Ronald Reagan um I've
  • known presidents well obviously particularly I know a vice president well um in addition to vice president
  • Harris um and and I watch how our presidents have operated and um even
  • when there have been presidents that we have potentially disagreed with on issues they've respected the

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  • Constitution I mean think about the the 2000 election and how close that was and
  • what vice president Gore did in in his concession speech and and ensuring that
  • we had the peaceful transfer of power and so I I would just urge people again you don't have to to take my word for it
  • but but look at what the people closest to Donald Trump are saying about him
  • look at the testimony of the leaders of his justice department the leaders of
  • his campaign the most senior officials in his White House look at their testimony in front of the select
  • committee you know they're the ones that that told us everything that we know uh
  • about his plan to overturn the last election about what he did watching the attack from his dining room we've never
  • faced a threat like this before and I I I think it's so important for people to realize
  • this Republic only survives if we protect it and that means putting partisan politics aside and standing up

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  • for the Constitution and for what's right and loving our country more
  • do do you think we'll be hearing more from some of those folks in the next 15
  • days the generals the Chiefs of Staff the people who really understand exactly
  • how unfit Donald Trump is I I do I also think that you know um that that they
  • have been very clear so far I mean you've had you've had hundreds of National Security officials who served
  • in Republican administrations endorse the vice president yeah um and all of
  • the things that that you know the fact that these people aren't endorsing the fact that vice president Pence was the
  • most loyal uh person there was to Donald Trump he won't endorse him because he
  • knows Donald Trump asked him to violate his oath of office now that should also give you a lot of pause about JD Vance

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  • JD Vance is there because he will do what Donald Trump wants and that makes him a particular danger to The Republic
  • as well and and I'll add to that point understand also what happened in
  • the last few months when the Supreme Court essentially told the former president he
  • will be immune from anything he does
  • in office so whereas before there was at least some threat of consequence and
  • accountability that no longer exists and to the congresswoman's point imagine
  • Donald Trump based on everything we know about him and everything we see now and
  • before imagine him with no guard rails because all of those folks who
  • worked with him before they're not those who held him back who attempted to
  • ensure that he would follow the law are no longer there and and we have

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  • the Supreme Court decision so the stakes are very high okay let's go to the
  • audience for some questions uh we we have some U undecided voters we have some questions for you uh Madame vice
  • president um let's go to Lisa Brockman uh from Madison uh Lisa is a small
  • business owner hi good evening thanks for taking my question I have a question on reproductive Freedom yeah and um I am
  • come from a Conservative Christian pro-life family and I was a republican
  • until Donald Trump's presidency um like most Americans I
  • believe in a woman's right to choose and with the overturning of roie Wade my
  • 21-year-old daughter now has fewer rights than her mother or her grandmothers um I no longer recognize
  • the Republican party they have introduced bills um from everything from

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  • restricting birth control to Bringing homicide charges for abortion it is such
  • an extreme radical agenda by any standards um it it seems less
  • about uh The Unborn and more about controlling women so my question is what
  • are your thoughts on this extremism and how can we restore those fundamental
  • human rights that have been taken away from the American women thank you so to your
  • point when Donald Trump was President he uh hand selected three members of the
  • United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of row and they did as he intended and now there are at least 20
  • States in our country that have criminalized healthc care provid I mean in Texas say the the law provides for

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  • prison for life for a doctor nurse health care provider for doing what they
  • believe is Healthcare and in the best interest of their patient um punishing
  • women I was actually just this week um just a few days ago in the state of
  • Georgia with the mother of a young woman who died because of Georgia's abortion
  • ban and she had to go to another state and it's a a long and very tragic story that did not have to
  • be and here's how I think about this issue one does not have to abandon their
  • faith or deeply held beliefs to agree that the government these folks in a state
  • capital much less Donald Trump should not be making this decision for her if she chooses she will talk with her
  • priest her pastor Rabbi her imom but not the government and and I also have found
  • though since the the two years that the do's decision came down that this happened I have had conversations with a

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  • number of people who were opposed to abortion and remain opposed to
  • it but did not intend for the harm that we are seeing to
  • happen and I think as this has this decision came down and we are seeing the
  • harm we've been listening to KLA Harris and Liz Cheney campaigning together in Brookfield we'll continue to watch but
  • joining me at the big table tonight is Molly Jang fast special correspondent for Vanity Fair Democratic strategist
  • and pollster Cornell Belcher and NBC News Capitol Hill correspondent Ali vitalii I mean that was quite and we've
  • seen some thematics today where they talk a lot about threats of democracy also abortion rats has come up
  • repeatedly at these events it's is really interesting I want to talk about both of them Al want to start with you because you the hardest working person
  • on the campaign Trail you're out there very hardworking people but but you
  • covered Nikki Haley for months also Trump but for months and one of the things that struck me watching today is

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  • that clearly vice president Harris and her team see undecide that that there are undecided voters out there that
  • they're still getable and that these type of events are a way to do that but you're still covering you're still
  • talking to Haley voters what do they think does this work and what works with them yeah covered Nikki Haley for months I've covered Donald Trump for years back
  • since the 2015 days s I'm fine but I do think that these kinds of
  • events are exactly what Haley voters have wanted to hear now whether or not it actually persuades them I guess we'll
  • find out on Election Day but I do think that this is the message that was the most Salient and I have to say when I
  • was out in Iowa and then New Hampshire then South Carolina during the Republican primary I was almost
  • surprised actually to hear from the number of Voters who said I was a trump voter in 16 I was a trump voter in 20
  • I'm not anymore because of January 6th and I think the polling might have maybe told us that those
  • hearings were not as impactful as maybe we thought they might be I found that to be a little bit depressing given the way

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  • that we all love the capital to me it's like a second home in a good way and a bad way um but the fact that so many of
  • those voters said it was such a turning point for them such an inflection point for them to finally put them away from Trump these are the kinds of Voters that
  • they are speaking directly to as they go to Battleground States and the abortion issue if it's not January 6th it's
  • abortion because I have literally met women who said to me I was a Republican and I changed my voter registration to
  • Independent the day after dos because I was embarrassed to be a republican the way that question was asked about how
  • it's not about the lives of babies I'm paraphrasing here it's about controlling women it's really interesting okay
  • Cornell Al like touched on a really interesting point there because people say jary sex doesn't matter democracy doesn't matter although democracy has
  • mattered and past elections for sure and I wanted to ask you about this undecided
  • voter question because you're actually very dug into the numbers more than the rest of us how many undecided voters are

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  • there out there where are they leaning is this the kind of thing that works it seems clear that Harris and is closing
  • this campaign trying to appeal its undecided voters which is smart ex expanding the base well there's the undecided vote and there's also what we
  • call that that that malleable voter that's still sort of in the middle kind of softly leaning one way or the other
  • and I think for this sort of the event I mean there are Republicans who are uncomfortable with the ideal of voting
  • Democrats M and and from from because they've done it so long they've done it so long Republican but they also they
  • they believe in sort of core conservative ideas that made them Republican and I got to tell you there's
  • no more a better representative of traditional conservative values than a
  • Cheney in America that's a pretty good Republican conservative brand you know
  • and being out there on the trail with them having these conversations with a Cheney and a Cheney leaning in on how
  • she supports the vice president leaning on in on the sort of democracy point of this I I think it does help some of

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  • these reluctant Republicans move this way now is it going to be you know 20 30% of them no but in a state like
  • Pennsylvania in a state like North Carolina wisc a state like Nevada you
  • know four or five% you know these elections will be won or lost by a percentage or two it does help with
  • those Nick with those Niki those Nicki voters who be like oh and then go and but if Li Chene is doing it might be
  • okay which we should point out Nikki Haley voters might be up for compromise on this Nikki Haley herself is an
  • endorser of Donald Trump and came back right home to the party that that is true but the voters themselves because
  • we've shorthanded that is kind of some of the getable voters we'll see there was something that um that Liz Cheney
  • said earlier today actually about abortion rights which just stuck out to me I mean she she is a very powerful
  • message on Democracy she's been doing and it's really impactful but let's just play what she said about abortion
  • earlier we're we're just going to pull it up and we're gonna get to it in a moment then I W to ask then I W ask you about it Molly they're gonna tell me

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  • when it's ready um we can make one little okay we're good we can play it let's play
  • it I think there are many of us uh around the country who have been
  • pro-life um but who have watched what's going on in our States since Do's
  • decision and have watched State legislatures um put in place laws that
  • um are resulting in women not getting the care they need and so um I think this this is not an issue that we're
  • seeing break down across party lines but I think we're seeing people come together to say um what has happened to
  • women when women are facing situations where they can't get the care they need where in places like Texas for example
  • um the Attorney General is talking about suing is suing to get access to Women's Medical Records that's not sustainable
  • for us uh as as a country and and it has to change I mean I thought this was an

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  • incredibly powerful moment because it's a very bridge building message um as a
  • proud Defender for a long time of abortion rights that was a bridge building message or that's how I heard it now one of the things it reminded me
  • of is white Women Voters who have been a voting block that went for Trump by nine
  • points in 16 and 11 points 11 points four years ago right now it's it's about
  • tide and and most of the polls including the NBC poll abortion rights seems quarter that what but what do you think
  • you've been writing about covering this issue for some time yeah I mean look abortion is I think has been a huge
  • motivator and I think what Cheney said is really important this idea that this is not that it's really about women sort
  • of not getting care and we see that in a lot of the reporting like that lift Louisiana report came out to show these
  • Obstetricians who were scared to treat women in the first trimester because they didn't want to get blamed for a

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  • miscarriage and CNN just had reporting about this High rate you know Texas overturned row a year before with eight
  • and so they have now almost three years worth of data and it shows that you have
  • increased matern increased fetal mortality you have these women who are walking coffins right they are
  • delivering babies that are going to die in the excess of the hundreds and it's you know this is because they cannot get
  • care and you know as someone who is pregnant twice and who knows what a struggle it is you know this is just not
  • a way that women should have to live in this in this era and no question they're both huge issues um when unfortunately
  • have to wrap it up though I'm going to encourage everybody Ally did some great reporting from Pennsylvania with some um
  • interesting voters who were white Women Voters it's a huge issue we'll talk more about it thank you all so much Corell
  • Ally Molly I always love talking to you and coming up Donald Trump just wrapped up his speech at a qinon meets white

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