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TRUMP TRANSITION 2024 MSNBC ... ARI MELBER The Beat With Ari Melber 11/15/24 FULL HD \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Breaking News November 15, 2024 PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFT6a2-91EA Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
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Transcript 0:00 hi Nicole thanks so much welcome to the beat I'm Ari melber we have a lot cooking for this big show to end the Week Tonight a top Obama veteran and healthc Care expert and Doctor speaking out on the stakes with this RFK Jr post We Begin though with the Clash erupting between some Washington Republicans and the incoming Trump Administration which in its personnel and in its clear plans is doing exactly what it said it would do and now already this early some Republicans are saying sometimes off the record maybe this isn't what they think is actually good for the country we are seeing people balk at Donald Trump's attempt to install people who have little to no experience in big posts or are partisan loyalists in posts that are supposed to disclaim exactly that approach as well as kind of just the general shock and awe thing we've been discussing this week uh actions and choices that aren't just a little bit off or taking on the establishment or the normal bellway thing which frankly over American history has happened from 1:00 time to time when you look at the evidence and the people and their experience this is not that this is 1:05 quite clearly an organized and direct plan to take people who are partisan 1:13 over independent who are provocators over the experienced and who are often 1:18 people who directly said they oppose the government rule of law and the agencies they would be a part of to now take them 1:24 over you have RFK who is not a doctor has no public health degree and is no 1:30 relevant experience to run HHS that would be a problem Full Stop in other words before you get more information 1:38 the fact that RFK would be someone who doesn't know how to fly and you're giving him keys to the plane and you're 1:43 saying to the passengers the country do you want to get on that plane well in that analogy inside the United States 1:50 that would still be illegal you can't pilot a plane of other people without a flight license just like you can't drive 1:56 without a driver's license and this is higher state than that so he doesn't have that experience and that's before 2:02 you get to all his conspiracy theories his discredited disproven materials things he has said that he's been 2:08 rebuked by doctors and public health experts for because it has misled people 2:13 sometimes to very delerious effects or another pick that Republicans Wall 2:18 Street Journal and others are saying they now oppose they say it's a bad idea but it's exactly what Trump has been 2:24 promising for the last several months on the campaign Trail partisan Vengeance so when Donald Trump tapped a Maga partisan 2:32 Vengeance warrior in Matt gates to be attorney general that's exactly what Trump campaigned on that much is clear 2:38 or a Fox News host at the Pentagon or a conspiracy theorist Who oversee 2:45 intelligence these are individuals some of them who probably wouldn't get a security clearance if they applied for these jobs in the normal course but they 2:52 are being rammed in by Donald Trump and he is daring Republicans the rest of the country to push back Republican speaker 2:59 mik Johnson basically saying he'll try to muscle Gates through that the house should not even release evidence 3:06 information that the house up to this point had said was important in other words it's self cancelling its own 3:13 process because it's not some random external process or journalism or anything else this is a report the house 3:20 was preparing under Republican rule about its own members ethics and alleged 3:26 misconduct and Drug allegations Republicans fighting each other now over this detail over Trump's 3:32 AG pick but you know these confirmation hearings uh they are fairly um 3:39 comprehensive in term of the vetting process that that nominees go well it's my understanding that is not supposed to 3:45 go public so if it's not supposed to under the rules it shouldn't go public do you want to see it 3:51 absolutely that's an early debate that is of course entirely of Donald Trump's own making because he picked someone who 3:57 had these outstanding ethics issues again just like RFK doesn't have much medical experience here Matt Gates who 4:04 is a lawyer um hasn't tried cases as a prosecutor let alone a senior prosecutor let alone a deputy attorney general or 4:11 anything to that degree now he would run the whole place with no doj experience if he gets in so why do you want someone 4:18 for that post obviously it's not the experience obviously it's not their represent representations about being 4:24 independent or nonpartisan quite the opposite that he would do what even many 4:30 hardcore loyalist Maga Republican lawyers wouldn't in the past do for 4:36 Trump the biggest bombshell is that he takes aim at his own attorney general Jeff sessions the president said he 4:43 never would have appointed Jeff sessions attorney general if he knew he'd recuse himself from the Russia investigation if 4:49 he would have recused himself before the job I would have said thanks Jeff but I can't you know I'm not going to thank 4:55 you president Trump tonight has his attorney general in the crosshairs the president's unhappy after Bill bar said 5:00 this week the justice department has so far not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the 5:06 election President Trump's plan necessarily changed as you will hear today Donald Trump offered Mr Clark the 5:13 job of acting attorney general the key points there are not 5:19 about left and right they're not about blue and red although there will be people defending Trump who argue 5:27 disingenuously that that's what it's about or this is cleaning up doj or other misconduct those are 5:34 distractions what this is actually about quite clearly is what you just heard there 5:42 I'll say it very simply when people followed the rules even though they were Arch conservatives Maga supporters 5:48 politically supportive of Donald Trump in every public possible way but when they follow the rules There are rules on 5:54 recusal at the doj because of the powers involved the justice department prosecutes cases that can result in 6:00 capital punishment if you have a conflict of interest with someone who could be executed by the government we 6:07 have very strict rules about that that's in everyone's public interest again it's not a left or right thing and it was 6:13 Jeff sessions who was well known as a very conservative senator who became attorney general that followed that rule that you just saw so upset Donald Trump 6:19 in the first term did O Bill bar when he said facts like Donald Trump lost the 6:25 election and there was no widespread fraud that interfered with that that was too far that one act it's the same 6:32 version of doj of what politically and ultimately with a coup attempt happened with Mike Pence that saying the words 6:39 about what's true after four years of service was enough to have him more than attacked by Donald Trump but his life 6:45 quite physically threatened by Trump's fans so that's the history again not about policy or left and right but just 6:52 about whether you would go as far as a wouldbe autocrat wanted and if you do that even one time you're out and so all 7:00 those people are out you heard Trump say it I'm playing you his words he said if he'd known that sessions would follow 7:05 those rules of fairness he wouldn't have given him the job in the first place he wanted someone willing to break the rules to be unfair quite publicly on 7:13 Trump's behalf then take it up to intelligence the dni tulsey gabard Trump 7:19 spent his first term though feuding with intelligence officials many of them nonpartisan but who follow the same 7:24 types of rules and that dealt with the Russia probe now Trump is tapping someone who doesn't even have the EXP 7:29 experience in those relevant areas the intelligence community and who has oddly and repeatedly gone the other direction 7:37 of all of the veterans and the people who study this to kind of seemingly coddle or side with Russian 7:44 interests again it's not about the facts for them it's just about what Donald Trump wants for whatever reason he 7:49 thinks that is in his personal or political interest then you go to the defense secretary now in contrast to RFK 7:56 we should note that Pete hegi is a veteran so he has that experience he served in Iraq and Afghanistan and many 8:01 people understandably respect that but he hasn't worked his way up in government in any way so the service 8:08 respected but the experience that's generally needed to run something as large as the Pentagon isn't exactly 8:14 there and there are many other people including as Donald Trump will tell you people who are publicly magar red who do 8:20 have that kind of experience but some of them won't work for Trump anymore like John Kelly who warned about these 8:26 autocratic Tendencies before the election others Trump doesn't want for the reasons I just told you they actually still follow 8:32 rules this individual has called liberals domestic enemies exactly the 8:37 kind of language that Donald Trump used on the campaign Trail which normalizes that but this person will now be the 8:43 first civilian oversight step between if confirmed commander-in-chief Trump and the generals so when he says enemies and 8:51 Trump says enemies that's two layers above the generals arguing for the approach that 8:57 could result in the misuse of the military against what they call Now American 9:03 enemies when you import the third world you get third world hierarchy values and 9:09 Chaos this is what the left does they've always been well I won't say fascists 9:16 but yeah fascists too strong of course not I'm straight up just saying we 9:21 should not have women in combat roles feels like a Putin's giv me my back War we used to have the former Soviet Union 9:27 and we're pretty proud of that and Ukraine was a part of it and all these other count I want my 9:34 back those are just some of the views and when you look at 9:39 this and you understand what has been espoused here right that's what the 9:46 vetting process is for no one is saying not that I've heard in Congress and no 9:51 one in serious journalism is saying that people can't have these public views and then come in and explain how they would 9:56 Square some of them or whether they've evolved or grown or what their oblig are through the Senate process what's 10:02 different now and what we've never seen before and I want you to keep your eye on this in the weeks ahead is president 10:08 has already said the president-elect Donald Trump that he thinks he can Ram all these people in without the Senate 10:13 and parts of the Senate we're going to watch this debate among Republicans are ready to go along with that so one of 10:19 the first checks against someone like that who would be the first person talking to Donald Trump about using the 10:24 military or considering nuclear plans or any number of very real things that the Pentagon Chief does may not even be 10:30 subject to meaningful Senate vetting under oath let alone confirmation hearings they say that because I just 10:35 told you what they're doing and trying to bury the ethics probe of a different official they're not going forward and 10:40 claiming to even do the vetting heg Seth also the Pentagon nominee has talked 10:46 about the kind of political purging of generals that the Trump transition team 10:51 is floating in trial balloon leaks about what they might want to take on as new unitary powers for Trump and Trump alone 10:59 the point here isn't whether they disagree with generals about certain things he's talking about his allegation 11:05 that they're too quote woke the point is actually much deeper than that this is 11:11 someone who's on record publicly saying he wants to do that thing Purge the generals Trump wants to do that thing Purge the generals conservative 11:18 longstanding generals from the first term said they heard Trump talk about that that he wanted autocratic generals 11:24 this is all happening and if there are people on Wall Street who think this is just about tax Cuts well they're going 11:30 to learn quickly it's about a heck of a lot more than that to the people in charge Donald Trump wants that control 11:36 over the Pentagon and again the history is instructive when he had a different Secretary of Defense Mark esper who 11:42 spoke out about how Trump wanted to misuse troops which again in any society 11:47 the first point of abuse is usually the use of force that's by the military or the police forces General Millie warned 11:54 that Trump was the most dangerous person to this country and a quote fascist to the core he told Bob Woodward that is 12:01 the kind of pre-election warning esper and Trump's Chief of Staff Kelly who I mentioned have been very clear about 12:07 that and so before you listen to this keep in mind this is no longer campaign rhetoric we had an election the people 12:13 voted Hillary Clinton got a larger share of the total vote a larger margin in 16 12:18 than Trump has right now but he got about a two-point margin and he won through the swing state so he is the 12:24 president-elect lawfully so put the politics to the side if that's how some people have heard it and understand 12:29 these were warnings about substance about governance about what the next four years could be like and they were clear warnings of what we're seeing this 12:38 week it certainly falls into into the general definition of of fascist for 12:44 sure I saw over the summer of 2020 where president Trump and those around him wanted to use the the National Guard in 12:51 various capacities and my sense as his inclination is to use the military in in these 12:57 situations those military Patriots who are loathed to speak out like that but 13:02 ultimately they did just as they backed by multiple sources blew the whistle on 13:09 what you see here that Donald Trump of sound mind and body as a public official 13:16 literally called for getting Hitler style generals he is now president-elect of 13:22 the United States he has picked his team his military team his top pentagon 13:30 nominee is someone who quite clearly wants to carry out 13:37 this plan Purge the generals get one get rid of the ones you disagree with put in 13:42 the Loyalists so you start there with that type of power it's not a drill and it's no longer something you can put in 13:49 the prism of campaign politics we're two years out plus from another campaign 13:55 these are warnings about what's actually happening who's in place and whe the Senate and the other powers that be in 14:01 this country will do anything about it Bill Crystal my Wy are here we're 14:07 back together in 90 seconds imagine a future where the 14:13 president could screen applicants to the justice department with one question are you loyal to me or to the 14:21 Constitution Adam kinger that was in the Jan 6 select committee hearings on exactly what we're living through right 14:27 now I'm joined by two veterans we've called on from government service Bill Crystal and my Wy uh bill I walked 14:34 through what we're dealing with um and at the risk of being repetitive I emphasize that for anyone who says 14:41 politics language campaign rhetoric uh we're past that now we're now back in 14:47 the news governing uh so what does it mean uh to look at these uh military plans and 14:54 Personnel I the defense department the justice department the intellig 14:59 agencies you know in social science they call those the power Ministries and when you analyze authoritarian takeovers in 15:06 other countries either dramatic ones like coups or gradual ones those are the agencies the autocrats focus on and 15:13 that's where Trump wants to C he wants to use those agencies to centralize power to him loyalty to him as Adam 15:20 kininger said not to the law the Constitution or the Norms of the the agencies uh he wants to personalize 15:26 power he wants people who will be loyal to him personally and he wants to have the ability to abuse power and it's it's 15:32 it's exactly what some of us feared the most about a trump second term the first term he had people in the think of the people who were in those jobs that Heth 15:40 and and the others are being nominated for they were people who respected the agencies and the rule of law and often 15:45 stopped Trump from doing things Jim mtis at defense even Jeff sessions U at Justice the intelligence even Mike 15:52 Pompeo who was a loyal Trump follower at CIA followed by Gina haspel and now 15:57 we're in the second term we're to totally different world an aspiring autocrat and final quote I would just make he also wants to break the Senate 16:04 he wants to break the power of the Senate to stop him that's why he keeps putting up one more radical nominee than 16:10 another either they're going to capitulate and vote for that nominee or they're going to capitulate in another 16:15 way along with speaker Johnson and let him do recess appointments so he wants to prove the point very early before 16:21 he's sworn in that he's in charge and there'll be no 16:27 descent Maya I I'll pick up right where Bill so 16:32 importantly left off that Donald Trump is actually saying that a power 16:39 explicitly given the US Senate to confirm or refuse to 16:45 confirm these nominees he wants to bypass that's an explicit power the 16:51 Constitution reserves to the Senate so to Bill's Point um this is the first 16:59 test of whether this uh of of how the Senate including Senate Republicans uh 17:05 decide what side they're on whether they're on the side of the Constitution of the people uh or whether they're on 17:11 Donald Trump's personal side and you know we should also say one of the things that so important in this 17:16 function in this role is the people of this country should have some 17:21 understanding of who's going to be making decisions about their daily lives because let's remember like when we're 17:27 talking about the secretary here when and hex Seth and his white supremacist and extremist tattoos on his body he is 17:35 also a person if he is in this job who will be having the discussion with Donald Trump about sending the military 17:42 into communities to police US citizens this is something that Donald Trump has 17:48 said explicitly it's a a power he has wanted to use it's it's one of the 17:53 warnings we heard from The Joint Chiefs in his administration when he was 17:59 president before and it's in Project 2025 and so it's not just that position 18:05 it's also health and its implications for people's daily lives but the United States of America is based on some 18:12 transparency and accountability and checks and balances and if we throw them out of the window to Bill's point it's 18:18 not only that it offends the Constitution but we will feel that pain 18:24 that danger and that lack of protection in our daily lives 18:31 bill that's both of you make important points and Bill when I say it's you know 18:36 completely not about ideology uh of course there are many Rich big fights to be had but if you 18:42 look at someone like RFK the whole purpose and point seems to be um that he 18:47 used whatever Fame he had to support Trump so he's a loyalist the fact that he is unqualified like the analogy I 18:55 made he couldn't legally fly a plane um he wouldn't normally ever be confirmed 19:01 in any in any setting for a health job but here he is but that doesn't for Trump feel like a compromise a trade-off 19:08 that feels like the point because as you said he wants to undermine the power of the Senate the power of the agencies the power of anything against him in any way 19:15 and then you look at the fact that now uh Republican Senators will be going along with as you said whether it's Vote 19:22 or or recess whatever uh if they go along with it it's someone who's been a Democrat most of his life um is publicly 19:28 pro-choice which is why Mike Pence came out against him this week um and is otherwise you know just a completely 19:35 unserious dangerous lying um ridiculous person and so in what way does that fit 19:42 Republican senator many of whom were just elected to sixe terms and have their own responsibilities now it's really 19:48 astonishing in another world it would be some that nomination would be floated senior Republicans or Junior Republican 19:54 Senators people who were just elected or people who' been there for 25 years would go privately lead to Donald Trump or to his closest Associates and say 20:01 we're not going to accept this you should withdraw this nominee or don't go ahead with it we'll find a face saving 20:06 way for you to do it make him ambassadors to Ireland or something you know and but we're not going to confirm 20:11 him so far as I can tell that hasn't happened it could happen I mean I'm not giving up hope that four Republican 20:17 Senators will sum of the courage to do the right thing it's really astonishing is it that tough to do Mitch mcconell is 20:23 81 years old M mcconell had Polio as a little kid uh because he was slightly 20:28 too before the vaccine became widely available um he knows that Robert Kennedy Jr should not be Secretary of 20:35 HHS with his anti vaccine views can and now if he wanted to stop this he could 20:40 get three other Senators Susan Collins Lisa rowski someone else Tom tillers or to sign a letter saying look we have 20:45 great regard for you Mr President you should get a conservative you should do this do that but you we just can't 20:50 accept this person what's most striking to me is that that sounds like a heroic thing that sounds like that wow that 20:56 would be something if they did that that is should be the most routine thing the responsible Senators should be doing at 21:02 this point and all of these nominees of my you don't even come close to being you know acceptable in terms of their 21:09 their Fitness for office their qualifications their personal backgrounds and so it's all about Trump 21:15 asserting power both asserting power if they were in office and asserting power in getting them into 21:21 office I've got a minute left but Maya I'll give you our final thought in this well again agree with Bill on this but 21:28 well I'm just going to have one final thought we have just seen candidates of color women of all Races trashed who 21:35 have been highly qualified for public office because of who they are called de Andi hires and here we are looking at a 21:43 series of people who honestly should not be considered for public office by anyone to your point 21:50 unqualified and yet this is a conversation we need to see from these same Senators who in some instances have 21:59 also claimed that when we recognize people of color and women should be in positions they've questions 22:05 qualifications well let's see that questioning now right I mean RFK Jr's has zero 22:12 qualifications here uh whatsoever so it's not I don't know what you call that 22:18 uh Kei right if it's only for uh Kennedy's but uh but the the many of the 22:24 people you're referencing did have overwhelming qualifications degrees Decades of service in the given field so 22:30 you know Maya Bill thanks to both of you I want to tell folks what's coming up it's been a long week on this program 22:35 we'll continue to follow the facts with you wherever they lead we'll also look out across the whole country so by the 22:41 end of the hour we have a special cultural segment including looking at the power of protest music with Phineas 22:47 so we think that's worthwhile by the end of the hour I hope you stay around for that but first on RFK on your kids or 22:53 parents or health Dr Zeke Emanuel next 23:00 president-elect Donald Trump has nominated Robert F Kennedy Jr for Health and Human Services secretary RFK Jr has 23:08 promoted controversial of often widely debunked Health claims I have great concerns for someone who has shown 23:15 complete disregard for public health I think it's awesome it's all about freedom because he's pro-choice pro-life 23:23 Senators may have difficulty confirming him RFK Jr has promised to clear out 23:28 entire departments we would be talking about going back to the what 1700 18800 23:34 I mean this is serious Donald Trump trying to put RFK 23:40 Jr in charge of the health agencies here HHS the United States one of the most 23:45 striking and unqualified selections he's proposed this week uh far more extreme uh than his comparable Health choices in 23:52 the first term we're joined by Dr zek Emanuel former Obama White House Health policy adviser uh now with the University of Pennsylvania uh 23:59 when you look at RFK Jr uh as someone in this position how do you assess his 24:06 qualifications first and second how do you assess separate from that uh his record of misstatements or outright 24:12 dangerous misinformation and how does that affect uh this power that he would have if if 24:18 confirmed well uh I think as you have said he's not uh particularly qualified 24:24 for this job and I can't imagine in any other circumstance this is the person you would nominate uh 24:32 to head this department we have in the past had some illustrious people run the 24:37 department uh I think uh under the Republican administration ofation of George W bush uh governor levit was who 24:45 had been governor in Utah came and ran it incredibly well uh actually put the first real pandemic preparedness plan in 24:53 place under Bill Clinton Donna Shala ran it incredibly well but these were were 24:58 people you know governor of a state uh incredibly thoughtful former president 25:03 of a major public university um and they knew what they were talking about and 25:08 they ran the department incredibly well they doubled the NIH budget and many other things but RFK has no 25:15 qualifications uh to run this uh this is Department it has $1.8 trillion in 25:22 expenditures it has uh 880,000 employees it deals with everything from 25:28 from food and regulating drugs to Public Health to paying Medicare and Medicaid 25:35 beneficiaries to recording Vital Statistics and surveillance uh for infectious diseases and he doesn't 25:42 understand half of that I mean I don't think he could explain the difference between Medicare part A and Part B um 25:48 and tell you how doctors are paid or how hospitals are paid and that's a huge portion $ 1.4 trillion dollar of his uh 25:56 department and his proposals suggests he doesn't understand science so it's 26:03 there's just no possible World in which you could imagine someone like this being nominated for this 26:11 job he came to his interest in his public remarks sort of in this field uh 26:17 as kind of an obsessive as a conspiracy theorist as someone that uh if they came at you like this at a party for 10 26:23 minutes you you might respectfully hear them out and try to move on um then sort 26:29 of doubled down on this and sort of put out his own materials as you as as you know and I think people have seen um he 26:35 didn't do what other people do and say oh I want to learn about this or I want to get a degree or you know it's fine 26:40 later in life you want to go back to med school or study uh statistical modeling he didn't do any of that he didn't do 26:46 any of the work um he used he cashed in on his Kennedy name um he told me on 26:51 this program that he didn't have any affinity for Trump and he was an independent of course that was also 26:57 untrue or proven untrue True by coing up to Trump I want to play briefly um how he has really misused the fame he has to 27:04 to attack these things without knowing anything here he was on vaccines there's no vaccine that is you 27:12 know safe and effective I do believe that autism does come from vaccines there's 25% of 27:19 Americans who believe that they know somebody who was killed by a covid 27:24 vaccine killed killed 25% of Americans 27:29 the last statement is is one of those kind of double lies it's not true that a quarter of the population believes that 27:35 and then underneath that if people believe something that's not scientific evidence that's just Poland uh again I 27:42 don't mean to I don't know where to start or end do each one of we could do each one of the things yeah he claimed 27:50 you know every vaccine we have uh is has to be proven safe and effective for the 27:55 FDA to approve it and then for rec it to be recommended and uh reimbursed 28:01 by insurers uh and the government so that just blatantly false and we know 28:07 just take the covid vaccine the probably the most controversial vaccine we've had people who got vaccinated were 2.5 times 28:15 less likely to die from covid than people who didn't get the vaccine so 28:20 it's not he just doesn't uh portray the truth the autism claim has been raised 28:27 if all started with one article in 1998 in the Lancet that involved 12 patients 28:35 getting only one vaccine measles Ms and rubella that article has been withdrawn 28:42 the author lead author of the article had a conflict of interest he was getting paid to argue against vaccine 28:48 manufacturers and then he found the 12 patients and it's been shown that they didn't have autism uh from the vaccine 28:56 uh so it's all um he's embraced lots and lots of other 29:01 false claims about Ivermectin hydroxy chloroquin raw milk um that seems to be 29:09 stock in trade um and I will say uh he's he he I don't I mean when you listen to 29:17 the man there's no evidence that he looks at the scientific data and then he draws a conclusion there's no it's not 29:23 even clear he could look at the scientific data and understand what conclusion you should draw and I don't 29:29 think he understands the scientific process because he argued you shouldn't do randomized control trials now there 29:36 are some circumstances where you might not either be able to do it or want to do it for various reasons but that has 29:42 traditionally been the gold standard with things like vaccines because you can control for all the other variables 29:50 that could affect illness and he s he's against that so I I I I just think this 29:57 is a sign of real danger in our society and what I worry about is what Bill crystal said you're going to have a 30:03 bunch of loyalists that don't oppose the worst instincts of uh Donald Trump um 30:09 and uh the country is going to uh make a lot of bad mistakes I mean look we 30:16 have I jump I'm only jumping in because we're running over on time and the other 30:23 journalistic question I had to ask now I'm over on time is you and your brother both served on the B Administration 30:28 there's reports about your brother raw maybe making a bid for DNC uh is that 30:33 true any comment oh I I don't know that's for him to decide um he's a very you know he's 30:41 politically smart I can tell you what I would want I think he's incredibly qualified he has strategic Vision uh 30:49 he's very good at messaging he's very good at the politics and the policy um 30:56 and I think on TV Frank he's very good at debating um you don't want to debate him on TV where you've 31:02 got two minutes and he's got two minutes because you invariably will lose in those circumstances and I think he has 31:09 the ability to Rally Theocratic party it sounds like the family is open 31:15 him about it you haven't discussed it this week no okay just doing my job 31:23 Zeke I haven't talked to him I have not talked to him this week or was just 31:29 curious because you but right you could have talked to him as this news was swirling um but again family business 31:35 public business uh Zeke Emanuel thank you we'll check in with you again lot of lot going on we'll be right 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