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SCOTUS
14TH AMENDMENT RULING

MeidasTouch: Why SCOTUS Justices PROTESTED 14th Amendment RULING


Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwxXnDfuWo
Peter Burgess COMMENTARY

There is law and there is law!

Much of good law is essentially the codification of 'basic common sense' and then there is a lot of law ... especially in the United States but significantly also in place like the UK where there is a substantial amount of complex law that makes it possible for the powerful and rich to avoid all sorts of potentially expensive responsibilities.

The modern world now has more billionaires than at any time in history ... good for these oligarchs, but not for the rest of us.

Early in my adult career during my 'accountancy' training, I did some of the 'grunt work' at Cooper Brothers ... that evolved into Coopers and Lybrand (C&L) and later on into PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PwC) ... for tax returns for some of the wealthiest people in London and the UK. But these people were millionaires, not billionaires ... and the taxes they were having to pay in the 1960s were far more onerous than billionaires are having to pay some 60+ years later.

For me, what is thought provoking is that the rich and powerful now own so much wealth that they can ignore anything and everything in the world around them. This is not healthy ... but worse, a lot of what appears to be wealth is coming from a bigger and bigger community of people who are growing poorer and poorer with no end in sight!

Peter Burgess
Why SCOTUS Justices PROTESTED 14th Amendment RULING

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Dec 25, 2024

MeidasTouch host Professor Ben Meiselas lectures on the majority vs. joining opinions in the Trump disqualification case and what the law of the land is right now, although we, and three Supreme Court justices, disagree with it.

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Transcript
  • 0:00
  • welcome to Professor meles's classroom
  • and as I teach my law students and
  • undergrad students the reason why
  • certain
  • justices provide concurring or
  • dissenting or joining opinions is that
  • they ultimately want to change what the
  • law is and have their voices heard even
  • if they're not the majority and that's
  • what happened back in March of 2024 when
  • the Supreme Court made a very bad rule
  • ruling on Trump disqualification under
  • the 14th Amendment Section 3 a very
  • simple question was posed to the United
  • States Supreme Court about whether the
  • state of Colorado could disqualify
  • Donald Trump from the ballot Colorado
  • Supreme Court four of their top justices
  • in the state of Colorado smart lawyers
  • said the 14th Amendment section three is
  • self-executing and absolutely Donald

  • 1:00
  • Trump should be disqualified they then
  • sent it to the United States Supreme
  • Court by staying the case it was
  • actually done via a RIT of cersi aori
  • just means a RIT by Trump's lawyers to
  • go to the Supreme Court so the question
  • posed to the Supreme Court was a simple
  • one was Colorado Supreme Court decision
  • the right one can a state disqualify a
  • federal office holder in this case the
  • president from the ballot the Supreme
  • Court could have just answered that
  • narrowly I mean one thing they could
  • have said is yes Donald Trump is
  • disqualified they did not say that the
  • other thing the Supreme Court could have
  • said is no Donald Trump is not
  • disqualified because Colorado got it
  • wrong but leave open these other
  • questions about what would constitute
  • disqualification so that there could be
  • subsequent challenges that were filed
  • like challenges that could have been
  • filed

  • 2:00
  • right now but the Supreme Court didn't
  • do that the Supreme Court went beyond
  • the question posed to it at least five
  • members of the Supreme Court did and
  • those five members said not only are we
  • going to ruled that Colorado did not
  • have the right to disqualify Trump but
  • they then ruled in addition when this
  • question wasn't even posed that the only
  • institution that can disqualify Donald
  • Trump is Congress through the passage of
  • legislation that in order to enforce the
  • 14th Amendment Section 3 the Supreme
  • Court said 14th Amendment Section 5
  • requires Congress to put forward
  • legislation in order to say Trump you're
  • disqualified folks I disagree with the
  • Supreme Court that wasn't even the
  • question to be decided by the United
  • States Supreme Court at all but they

  • 3:02
  • went there why did they go there because
  • the five justices three of whom um were
  • or at least a lot of them were appointed
  • by Donald Trump Amy Cony Barrett um was
  • uh also doing a joining opinion um where
  • she said the Supreme Court went too far
  • but a lot of these justices were trying
  • to protect Donald Trump the five wanted
  • to protect him so they went beyond the
  • question that was even posed
  • but let's take a look at what the other
  • justices did because all nine justices
  • it was a nine to zero opinion all nine
  • agreed that Colorado got it wrong by the
  • way I disagree with those nine Supreme
  • Court Justices I think that Colorado got
  • it right but I'm just telling you what
  • the Supreme Court decision ultimately
  • States I'm I'm just reading for you what
  • what's in the actual opinion but some of
  • the other justices who were not in the
  • majority said while we agree with you

  • 4:01
  • that Colorado got it wrong we think you
  • as the Supreme Court went way too far in
  • protecting Donald Trump from other
  • aspects of disqualification by making
  • this an issue of Congress that wasn't
  • the question even posed why are you
  • saying this supreme court so let me just
  • go over that with you because if you
  • want to change the law if you want the
  • law to be this you need more justices
  • who look like just Justice Kagan and
  • Obama appointee Justice Soto myor and
  • Obama appointee and Justice katangi
  • Brown Jackson a Biden appointee again
  • these three all found still that
  • Colorado got it wrong but they found the
  • Supreme Court went too far by saying
  • Congress has to pass legislation and
  • preventing other forms of
  • disqualification before an inauguration
  • so let's just go into what soda mayor
  • Kagan and Jackson said and by the way if

  • 5:00
  • you disagree with my interpretation of
  • the majority opinion why is it that
  • Kagan soor and Jackson are saying the
  • following here's what they say allowing
  • Colorado to do what it did we agree was
  • wrong it would create a chaotic
  • state-by-state Patchwork at odds with
  • our nation's federalism principles that
  • is enough to resolve the case yet the
  • majority remember I'm saying what the
  • majority did here's what they're saying
  • katangi Brown Jackson Kagan and Soto
  • myor yet the majority goes further even
  • though all nine members of the Court
  • agree that this independent and
  • sufficient rationale resolves the case
  • those five justices go on they go beyond
  • the simple issue of removal from a
  • ballot on a state they go further than
  • that why they shouldn't have and then
  • these three justices and the joining
  • opin opinion go they decide novel

  • 6:01
  • constitutional questions to insulate
  • this court and the petitioner from
  • future
  • controversy pose right there what's the
  • future controversy that the majority is
  • insulating Trump from the controversy
  • right now this controversy that I'm
  • hearing people saying oh he should be
  • disqualified now what these justices are
  • saying is that the Supreme Court went
  • beyond the question that was posed to
  • protect Trump from the situation right
  • now they go on to say although only an
  • individual State's action is at issue
  • here the majority opines on which
  • federal actors can enforce section three
  • and how they must do so the majority
  • announces that a disqualification for
  • Insurrection can occur only when
  • Congress enacts a particular kind of
  • legislation pursuant to section five of
  • the 14th Amendment in doing so the

  • 7:00
  • majority shuts the door on other
  • potential means of federal enforcement
  • momentous and difficult issues
  • unnecessarily and we therefore concur
  • only in the Judgment meaning we concur
  • only in the fact that Colorado got it
  • wrong and they shouldn't have
  • disqualified Trump but we disagree with
  • the majority opinion that they believe
  • that Congress has to to pass legislation
  • to disqualify for example I'll give you
  • an open question could a lawyer file a
  • federal lawsuit to disqualify Donald
  • Trump Ben you're a civil rights lawyer
  • why don't you bring a federal lawsuit
  • there's so many powerful Federal lawsuit
  • lawyers out there mark Elias Karen
  • fredman annif um you know major
  • constitutional Scholars out there who
  • who you probably support who you know to
  • be fearless and you're probably saying

  • 8:01
  • come on guys you got to be strong why
  • aren't you filing this precisely because
  • the United States Supreme Court's law
  • right now is preventing that from
  • happening and these other three Supreme
  • Court Justices who agree with us are
  • basically saying that the majority
  • opinion prevents that from happening so
  • if a lawyer were to file a lawsuit like
  • that as of right now now based on the
  • current composition of the Supreme Court
  • you would probably get severely
  • sanctioned a lawyer could potentially
  • lose their license if you are
  • challenging what the actual state of the
  • law
  • is you're going to lose and you're going
  • to lose in humiliating fashion and
  • that's not helpful for anyone as much as
  • we'd like to file those lawsuits and
  • these justices here who disagree with
  • the majority opinion are basically
  • saying that right there

  • 9:00
  • they go on to say the court continues to
  • resolve questions not before us in a
  • case involving no federal action
  • whatsoever the court opines on how
  • Federal enforcement of section three
  • must proceed Congress the majority says
  • must enact legislation under Section
  • Five prescribing the procedures to
  • ascertain what particular individual
  • should be disqualified and you see that
  • signed by Justice Soto mayor Justice
  • Kagan and Justice Jackson they're again
  • disagreeing with um the other justices
  • Justice Kavanaugh Clarence Thomas Alo
  • Roberts um and the majority of the
  • majority justices right there um they go
  • on to say Gorsuch um they go on to say
  • section three states as part of this
  • Soto mayor Kagan and Jackson they say
  • look section three states simply that no

  • 10:00
  • person shall hold certain positions in
  • offices if they are oath breaking
  • insurrectionist nothing in that
  • unequivocal bar suggests that
  • implementing legislation under Section
  • Five is critical in fact the text cuts
  • the opposite way section three provides
  • that when an oath breaking
  • insurrectionist is disqualified Congress
  • May by a vote of 2third of each house
  • remove such disability it is hard to
  • understand why the constit ution would
  • require a congressional super majority
  • to remove a
  • disqualification if a simple majority
  • could nullify section 3's operation by
  • repealing or declining to pass
  • implementing legislation even petitioner
  • even Trump's lawyer acknowledged the
  • tension in section three that the
  • majority's view creates so what the
  • majority is saying as it relates to the
  • 2/3 needed to remove the disability
  • meaning that the individual is an

  • 11:01
  • insurrectionist so that first in order
  • to
  • disqualify it would just need a simple
  • majority in Congress to pass legislation
  • but then to remove that disability after
  • legislation is passed it would require
  • 2/3 to remove it as these justices say
  • that makes no sense for me it makes no
  • sense and for you you may have been
  • struggling with this question and say it
  • makes no sense and if you say it makes
  • no sense I think you are right you are
  • agreeing with Justice Soto myor Justice
  • Kagan and Justice Jackson You're
  • agreeing with some of the smartest legal
  • scholars in today the smartest who's
  • smarter than Soto mayor Kagan and
  • Jackson they're saying the majority opin
  • you're not even reading the language
  • correctly of the 14th Amendment Section
  • 3
  • and they're right you're not reading it

  • 12:01
  • correctly but that's how the majority
  • read it so if you're struggling with
  • this it's because it was a bad opinion
  • um and then they go on to say similarly
  • nothing else in the rest of the 14th
  • Amendment supports the majority's view
  • and again the majority's view is the law
  • of the land section five gives Congress
  • the power to enforce the amendment by
  • appropriate legislation remedia
  • legislation of any kind however is not
  • required the majority is left with no
  • text sorry the majority is left with
  • next to no support for its requirement
  • that a section three disqualification
  • can occur only pursuant to legislation
  • enacted for that purpose it cites this
  • Griffin's case but that is
  • non-precedential Lower Court opinion by
  • a single Justice in his capacity as a
  • circuit court judge the majority
  • resolves much more than the case before
  • us although a federal enforcement of

  • 13:02
  • Section 3 is in no way at issue the
  • majority announces novel rules for how
  • the enforcement must operate it reaches
  • out to decide section three questions
  • not before us and to foreclose future
  • efforts to disqualify a presidential
  • candidate under that provision in a
  • sensitive case crying out for judicial
  • restraint it abandons that course
  • section three serves an important though
  • rarely need needed role in our democracy
  • the American people have the power to
  • vote for and elect candidates for
  • national office and that is a great and
  • glorious thing the men who drafted and
  • ratified the 14th Amendment however had
  • witnessed an Insurrection and Rebellion
  • to defend slavery they wanted to ensure
  • that those who had participated in that
  • Insurrection and in possible future
  • insurrections could not return to
  • prominent roles today the majority goes
  • beyond the necessities of this case to
  • limit how section three can bar an

  • 14:01
  • oath-breaking insurrectionist from
  • becoming president although we agree the
  • Colorado cannot enforce Section 3 we
  • protest the majority's efforts to use
  • this case to define the limits of
  • federal enforcement of that provision
  • because we would decide only the issue
  • before us we concur only in the dud in
  • the Judgment look at that strong
  • language that they say we protect T the
  • majority's effort to use this case to
  • define the limits of federal enforcement
  • and by the way even Judge Amy Cony
  • Barrett Who was appointed by Trump
  • protests as well she goes this suit was
  • brought by Colorado voters under state
  • law and State Court it does not require
  • us to address the complicated question
  • whether Federal legislation is the
  • exclusive vehicle through which section
  • three can be enforced and the majority
  • view of the Supreme Court which is the
  • the supreme law of the land right now

  • 15:01
  • cuz the Supreme Court interprets the
  • Constitution says the exclusive remedy
  • for disqualification is legislation
  • which is being protested by three of the
  • other judges now look you can be livid
  • at the Supreme Court you should be
  • pissed off at the Supreme Court Donald
  • Trump appointed a number of Supreme
  • Court Justices George W bush appointed
  • Supreme Court Justices and then you even
  • get Clarence Thomas from George HW Bush
  • those are bad justices they overturned
  • roie Wade and left us with DOs they've
  • overturned the lemon test and stopped
  • the separation of church and state these
  • are people who have allowed the
  • proliferation of guns um weapons of war
  • pretty much anywhere under Clarence
  • Thomas' um horrific opinions this is a
  • rogue and bad Supreme Court so
  • stipulated I just need you to know what
  • 14th Amendment section three what the
  • ruling was by the Supreme Court the 14th

  • 16:00
  • Amendment Section 3 I'm just telling you
  • what it says why there's this
  • controversy is because the non-majority
  • is pissed that the majority went beyond
  • the question of the Colorado ballots you
  • get it and so what the majority was
  • trying to protect Trump and you have to
  • understand they wanted to protect Trump
  • From This Moment here where people would
  • file lawsuits to try to disqualify Trump
  • and say he's an insurrectionist and
  • petition it or to have um you know Trump
  • not be certifi Trump's election not be
  • certified on January 6 because people
  • would say oh he's an
  • insurrectionist by them saying it
  • requires affirmative law to do it the
  • five justices insulated and protected
  • Donald Trump you need to know their
  • strategy to do that in order to prepare
  • for the future battles you know with the
  • Supreme Court so you know what's going
  • on here if you don't like this decision

  • 17:00
  • if this makes you livid advocate for a
  • change in the dynamic of the Supreme
  • Court expand the courts um that was
  • something that uh you know even some
  • Democrats prevented from happening uh in
  • the Senate who you know who I'm talking
  • about
  • so sometimes though over years over
  • decades sometimes shorter the
  • non-majority opinion whether it's a
  • joining a concurring or a sent becomes
  • the law of the land and it becomes the
  • law of the land because it's eventually
  • viewed as the correct interpretation of
  • the law but I just want you to know what
  • the Supreme Court actually ruled um that
  • you know and I I don't want to say that
  • there's an ability for a lawyer to file
  • this lawsuit right now there just there
  • there wouldn't be you would you would
  • lose you'd get laughed out of court and
  • you'd probably get sanctioned as a
  • lawyer for bringing one otherwise
  • lawyers would be bringing it all this
  • you know all this time the top Democrats

  • 18:01
  • would be everyone would be bringing it
  • the majority opinion is the majority
  • opinion you just need to know what it
  • actually says and why the joining
  • opinion was so pissed at what the
  • majority is but for now the majority is
  • that's the law of the land one of the
  • things Congress could do in the future
  • although right now Congress is made up
  • of Senate's going to be controlled by
  • Republicans in January and it's
  • controlled by Republicans in the house
  • so they're not going to pass that
  • legislation you think Maga Mike is going
  • to do it with John Thun the Republican
  • Senate majority they're not they're not
  • doing that they're not passing the
  • legislation it's just it's not happening
  • right now it's not going to happen so I
  • want to focus our energy
  • on Trump's picks um his cabinet picks I
  • want to focus our energy and uplifting
  • different groups like we did with the
  • Nurses Association other people who are
  • going to be impacted I want to change

  • 19:00
  • the dynamic of the Supreme Court I don't
  • want the Supreme Court's composition to
  • look like that but we have to do this
  • systemically right the same way you had
  • um the Federalist Society for 30 40
  • years change that Dynamic we the
  • pro-democracy community have to have our
  • own version of like that that is a
  • pro-democracy society and those are the
  • types of initiatives that we're
  • supportive of in building and amplifying
  • voices like that
  • so there's a lot of serious work
  • happening behind the scenes I just I
  • want you to understand the dynamic again
  • I think it's very important and I think
  • when you see what the joining opinions
  • say you get it why else would they be
  • saying
  • that soda mayor Kagan and katangi brown
  • Jackson if the majority opinion wasn't
  • what the majority opinion was which is
  • how I've interpreted it in line with
  • that and by the way how you probably
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