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JASMINE CROCKETT

WFAA: Meet the Texas Congresswoman who claps back: Jasmine Crockett | Y'all-itics: May 26, 2024


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Peter Burgess COMMENTARY

Peter Burgess
Meet the Texas Congresswoman who claps back: Jasmine Crockett | Y'all-itics: May 26, 2024 WFAA Jun 7, 2024 1.76M subscribers ... 127,255 views ... 3.7K likes Y'all-itics Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett isn’t afraid of a fight. And she recently went viral for defending herself against an attack from U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Transcript
  • 0:00
  • Hey there, Jason Whiteley with you for this episode. Wheeler has this week off.
  • I know he's going to miss our guest because we've been trying to track her down
  • for several days.
  • Now, if you scroll through social media at all over the last week,
  • you've likely seen the memes.
  • Of course, you've seen the headlines related to what Texas Congresswoman,
  • Jasmine Crockett said about a colleague.
  • She called Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Republican
  • uh from Georgia, congresswoman from Georgia. She called her a bleach blonde,
  • bad built butch body
  • to be fair though. You know, this Green threw the very first insult
  • at Crockett.
  • But what in the world is going on in
  • Congress with these insults flying during official meetings.
  • Let's lay out exactly what happened here.
  • The House Oversight Committee,
  • it's the Oversight Committee for the US
  • House of Representatives was in an official meeting
  • uh about 10 days ago or so, Marjorie Taylor Green,
  • the Republican Congresswoman from Georgia.
  • She makes a comment
  • about Jasmine Crockett's eyelashes

  • 1:01
  • right in the middle of this meeting. Just AAA personal comment on that.
  • I'm going to play the clip here,
  • but let me set it up just a Tad Green comments about Crockett's eyelashes.
  • Then you're going to hear almost immediately another female voice here.
  • It's New York Democrat, Alexandria
  • Ocasio Cortez, she scolds Green.
  • She goes after Marjorie Taylor Green for making
  • a personal insult against a member of Congress.
  • Here's where things go sideways. The chairman of that committee, a Republican
  • refuses to punish Marjorie Taylor Greene refuses to scold her.
  • So congresswoman Crockett,
  • he, she asked the chairwoman
  • this now infamous question. Here's how it all happened.
  • Do you know what we're here for?
  • You know, we're here about,
  • I don't think you know what you're here for
  • you. The one talking about,
  • I think your fake eyelashes are messing up.
  • I do have a point of order and I would like to move to, to take down Miss Green's words.

  • 2:03
  • That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you
  • 2:06
  • accept
  • 2:07
  • the
  • 2:08
  • appearance of another person? Are your feelings? Her words down?
  • 2:11
  • 00 girl, baby girl. Oh, really? Don't even play baby girl.
  • 2:18
  • We are gonna move and we're gonna take your words down. I second that motion.
  • 2:21
  • I'm just curious just to better understand your ruling.
  • 2:24
  • If someone on this committee then starts talking about
  • 2:28
  • somebody's bleach blind,
  • 2:30
  • bad built Busch body that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?
  • 2:34
  • A what? Now
  • 2:35
  • Congresswoman Crockett is on the line with us.
  • 2:37
  • Now, congresswoman, did,
  • 2:38
  • did you ever expect that point of order to take on a life of its own?
  • 2:42
  • Like it has
  • 2:43
  • no,
  • 2:44
  • I don't think anyone would ever expect memes and songs and skits and all the things I,
  • 2:53
  • I absolutely had
  • 2:55
  • never anticipated this.
  • 2:57
  • So lay out kind of what happened there. It, when, when

  • 3:00
  • Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green made that comment,
  • 3:04
  • give me an idea of kind of what your first reaction was before.
  • 3:08
  • Uh Representative Ocasio
  • 3:10
  • Cortez jumped in. What was your reaction? And, and what were you thinking? Then
  • 3:15
  • I was caught off guard because Marjorie is wild and ridiculous,
  • 3:20
  • but she had never crossed the line to actually attack
  • 3:23
  • a member of the other party. Now she will attack her own members.
  • 3:27
  • She will attack the president as we've seen in the state of the union addresses,
  • 3:31
  • but she had never done this.
  • 3:33
  • Um And so initially, I had to try not to get up out of my seat if I'm being honest. Um,
  • 3:40
  • because I knew that it was nothing more than her just trying to poke the
  • 3:44
  • bear and use this as an opportunity to try to demean me and raise money
  • 3:49
  • because that's what she does.
  • 3:51
  • So, did you come up with that,
  • 3:53
  • uh, alliteration, that phrase on the fly or is that something you jotted down?
  • 3:57
  • So let me think, I think this out for a second while this is going back and forth.

  • 4:02
  • No, it definitely was not as the back and forth was going on,
  • 4:05
  • but I absolutely did jot it down.
  • 4:08
  • Um So essentially I was of the impression
  • 4:12
  • that she was going to be forced to um
  • 4:16
  • give an apology, which was perfectly fine with me.
  • 4:20
  • Like I just wanted her to kind of settle down
  • 4:23
  • and let's get back to work because after all,
  • 4:25
  • we were having an eight pm hearing
  • 4:27
  • when we were supposed to be in a hearing room at 11 a.m. And Democrats
  • 4:30
  • have been at work all day waiting on them to return from their field trip.
  • 4:34
  • So I just wanted to get through it like we knew they had the votes,
  • 4:37
  • we knew what this was gonna come down to.
  • 4:39
  • But like, let's go through this in an orderly fashion.
  • 4:42
  • And so when she decided not to apologize,
  • 4:45
  • I was fine with that too because that meant she was supposed to get kicked out.
  • 4:49
  • So it was like great, whatever. Like I just wanna move on.
  • 4:52
  • And then when Comer decided to change his mind,
  • 4:55
  • it was only in that moment that I looked across at her
  • 4:58
  • and I started to dissect her from head to toe.

  • 5:01
  • Um So that's why it started with bleach blonde. Um
  • 5:05
  • I started to dissect her and so I did jot it down
  • 5:08
  • in that moment as I was trying to get uh Comer's attention.
  • 5:12
  • And so you jotted this down, you got his attention and then, and then you said it and
  • 5:17
  • the, the chairman didn't know what you said. It kind of reminds me of the scene from uh
  • 5:22
  • uh something about, well, my cousin Vinny when the, when the judge said, I'm sorry,
  • 5:26
  • what,
  • 5:27
  • um,
  • 5:27
  • what has happened in the 10 days or so since then?
  • 5:30
  • What kind of reaction have you heard from, from other lawmakers first?
  • 5:34
  • Um, you know what? It's been? Nothing but positive,
  • 5:39
  • at least on my end. Um, and that's including her Republican colleague.
  • 5:43
  • You know,
  • 5:44
  • you've had some Republicans
  • 5:46
  • give you praise for that.
  • 5:48
  • I'm sorry,
  • 5:48
  • you've had some Republicans give you praise for that.
  • 5:51
  • Yeah.
  • 5:51
  • Yeah.
  • 5:52
  • Yeah, they've done that.
  • 5:54
  • They've not, you know, we've not engaged in some long, um, conversations,
  • 5:58
  • but I've definitely gotten some winks and some

  • 6:00
  • thumbs up from some of the Republican women.
  • 6:03
  • And then I've had at least two Republican men that specifically were, like,
  • 6:07
  • I like your eyelashes.
  • 6:09
  • So, like,
  • 6:11
  • definitely with a smile after it. Right. Um,
  • 6:14
  • she's not been supported by her caucus.
  • 6:16
  • Like you didn't see members coming out defending her for what she said whatsoever.
  • 6:21
  • But members absolutely defended me
  • 6:24
  • for defending myself. Um, and so she is on an island by herself.
  • 6:28
  • I mean, think about it the week before she had tried to oust the speaker.
  • 6:31
  • So she just doesn't really have any friends.
  • 6:34
  • And Lauren Boebert voted with the Democrats.
  • 6:37
  • Um, and I don't think she did it because it was the right thing to do.
  • 6:40
  • She may say that that's why she did it. I think she did it because
  • 6:43
  • they have been involved in a rift for a while as well.
  • 6:47
  • So, I think that honestly, Democrats and republicans alike
  • 6:52
  • were like, thank you, finally somebody to like, you know, shut this bully down
  • 6:57
  • and I did it in a way in which I wasn't violating rules, but

  • 7:01
  • it was a way to make Homer think about
  • 7:03
  • what are like, what is the Pandora's box going to look like if you say that this is OK,
  • 7:09
  • what all is going to be OK?
  • 7:11
  • Is this really how you want to run the committee?
  • 7:14
  • Well, let me ask you that question. II I would take it a step further.
  • 7:16
  • What in the world is going on in Congress?
  • 7:18
  • Yeah, it's,
  • 7:20
  • you know, it, it's not even just Congress, it's politics as a whole. I mean,
  • 7:25
  • you know, I truly believe it as, as a progressive Democrat.
  • 7:30
  • I truly believe in governance and what that means,
  • 7:34
  • that means two functioning parties, period. I absolutely believe that.
  • 7:39
  • And right now we have a party that has been co opted
  • 7:42
  • by Ma and Ma is not a party mega is a cult.
  • 7:45
  • It is completely different and I say it's
  • 7:47
  • a cult because it's like people are brainwashed,
  • 7:50
  • right?
  • 7:50
  • Like they're doing things not because it necessarily makes logical sense,
  • 7:55
  • but they are brainwashed and they are also induced to doing violent things. And,

  • 8:00
  • and so,
  • 8:01
  • um that's why we've seen what we saw on January 6th
  • 8:04
  • and you've seen people come out after the convictions and say,
  • 8:07
  • man, I lost, right? Um And so here it is, this cult is taking over
  • 8:13
  • and because this cult may give traditional Republicans some of the policy agenda,
  • 8:19
  • things that they care about.
  • 8:20
  • They're like, fine, we'll deal with the colts, you know,
  • 8:23
  • but there are very few um regular Republicans that are still standing.
  • 8:28
  • And we know this when we look at how many people are leaving Congress,
  • 8:32
  • the people that are leaving Congress in droves are the semi regular Republicans.
  • 8:37
  • They're like, you know what? Not only am I leaving,
  • 8:39
  • but I am quitting early
  • 8:41
  • and to have a Ken Buck who's a freedom caucus guy.
  • 8:45
  • This isn't like your middle ground guy who says this place is
  • 8:49
  • too wacky for me and he's not talking about the Democrats.
  • 8:53
  • In fact, he said that he got so much more done when the Democrats were in control.
  • 8:58
  • Oh,
  • 8:59
  • so for people who haven't been on Capitol Hill or, or, or in the,

  • 9:01
  • in the office buildings where the lawmakers physically do the work and,
  • 9:05
  • and have their offices, it's, it's a,
  • 9:08
  • you know, close knit small hallways and people run into each other all the time.
  • 9:12
  • Reporters are in there
  • 9:14
  • waiting to talk to people constantly in the tunnels at the Capitol too.
  • 9:17
  • Have you run into Marjorie Taylor Greene since all this happened?
  • 9:21
  • I have not seen her.
  • 9:22
  • Not at all.
  • 9:23
  • Have you, have you, have you spoken to her at all? Email, text anything like that?
  • 9:28
  • If, if she were to be listening to this episode of y
  • 9:33
  • any message for her, any, any comment to her
  • 9:35
  • focus on your work?
  • 9:37
  • I mean, we can disagree but that doesn't mean that you
  • 9:41
  • are somehow entitled to then come after me personally.
  • 9:44
  • And, and that's, it just focus on your work. Focus, focus on serving your district.
  • 9:49
  • It's what I'm trying to do every single day that I show up in the halls of Congress.
  • 9:53
  • I want to ask you something that uh Donna Brazile said the other day on ABC S this week,
  • 9:59
  • she's, of course,
  • 9:59
  • the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee political strategist,

  • 10:03
  • she essentially said after all this happened,
  • 10:06
  • maybe you shouldn't have taken the bait.
  • 10:08
  • What do you say to that?
  • 10:10
  • I disagree.
  • 10:11
  • Um You know, and I think that we have
  • 10:15
  • different generations of Democrats right now
  • 10:18
  • and when I say different generations,
  • 10:20
  • I'm not just talking about age.
  • 10:22
  • I think that we have different approaches, right?
  • 10:25
  • We are being faced with something that we've never had in American politics, right?
  • 10:31
  • When you think about things like
  • 10:33
  • the uh Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act,
  • 10:36
  • these were things that were passed in the fifties and sixties
  • 10:39
  • and we could get them passed
  • 10:41
  • right now.
  • 10:42
  • We can't get a reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act because we
  • 10:46
  • have been co opted by people that literally don't believe in diversity,
  • 10:50
  • equity or inclusion affirmative action.
  • 10:53
  • Like we're turning back the hands of time on repro
  • 10:57
  • like we have a different machine that has pulled in.

  • 11:01
  • And I just don't think that you can
  • 11:03
  • and continue to approach
  • 11:05
  • um this different kind of machine that we're dealing with
  • 11:08
  • using the same old tricks.
  • 11:09
  • And it's one of the things that people have said about the Democratic Party.
  • 11:14
  • They said,
  • 11:14
  • listen,
  • 11:15
  • you guys are weak. I don't think Democrats are weak.
  • 11:18
  • You've seen so much strength out of Hakeem
  • 11:20
  • Jeffries who is literally in the minority,
  • 11:23
  • but he is governing as if he is the boss, right?
  • 11:25
  • Like there's so much strength.
  • 11:27
  • But at the same time, basically, we're told, sit there take the punches
  • 11:32
  • and
  • 11:33
  • yeah, you like, people will be happy. I will tell you.
  • 11:36
  • Now, I haven't talked to all 766,000 constituents that I have,
  • 11:40
  • but we have received flowers in
  • 11:44
  • like Spanish.
  • 11:45
  • We have received so many emails,
  • 11:47
  • we've received emails from other countries talking about how happy they were that
  • 11:53
  • I finally shut her down and we're talking about somebody that's a villain.
  • 11:57
  • This person actually polls the worst out of all Republicans. She pulls the worst.

  • 12:03
  • She's also the fifth highest fundraiser.
  • 12:05
  • And so her antics,
  • 12:07
  • they have a place somewhere in Maga world and it affords her kind of
  • 12:13
  • this reinforcement of continue to play games because I'll end up raising money.
  • 12:18
  • But the reason one of the reasons that I think what I said
  • 12:22
  • um really took off is because people were ready to
  • 12:26
  • attack the bully and this was kind of a rallying call
  • 12:31
  • to be able to go after her.
  • 12:32
  • So, you know,
  • 12:33
  • I hope that we don't end up here again because it's not what I go to Congress to do.
  • 12:39
  • Um,
  • 12:39
  • I have brought hundreds of millions of dollars home to
  • 12:42
  • Dallas because that's what I was sent there to do.
  • 12:45
  • I have actually been able to get legislation passed.
  • 12:48
  • In fact, um,
  • 12:49
  • just earlier that week I had just gotten a bill out of Oversight Committee of all,
  • 12:56
  • of course, she voted against it, but I got it out in a bipartisan way.
  • 12:59
  • I've been able to work with Senator Cornyn and make

  • 13:02
  • sure that we could work on things such as fentaNYL.
  • 13:05
  • So like I am there to work, she is there to disrupt. Um And so the hope and goal is that
  • 13:12
  • I don't expect anything out of Marjorie, but I expect more out of my chairman and I,
  • 13:17
  • I think I may end up being able to get that out of him.
  • 13:20
  • Let me ask you about something you said in that
  • 13:23
  • and that's about being a different generation of Democrats because
  • 13:25
  • I think Democrats today, when you look at the Republican party today,
  • 13:28
  • Democrats today probably have that reputation
  • 13:31
  • of being weak and maybe taking the high road and, and you know, being the 19 eighties,
  • 13:35
  • 19 nineties Democrats
  • 13:36
  • and not engaging like Republicans do not showing their teeth like Republicans. Do,
  • 13:40
  • do you ever have any, any veteran Democrats on the hill who say,
  • 13:44
  • come on,
  • 13:45
  • congresswoman just
  • 13:47
  • actually not really,
  • 13:48
  • not really at all. Huh?
  • 13:49
  • No. The very first person that I saw the next day because we had one vote on that Friday
  • 13:56
  • was Nancy Pelosi
  • 13:58
  • and
  • 13:59
  • Pelosi definitely did not tell me to pull back.

  • 14:02
  • Pelosi was like, great job. And I was like, what?
  • 14:06
  • And she was like, you got her.
  • 14:08
  • And so, you know, she was very encouraging and I was like,
  • 14:11
  • how does Nancy know?
  • 14:12
  • Because again, we were in that hearing until close to,
  • 14:15
  • I got home like at midnight or a little bit after midnight.
  • 14:19
  • And, um, you know, I went in to vote at like nine in the morning,
  • 14:23
  • but it had been on Good Morning America
  • 14:24
  • and so she had seen it.
  • 14:26
  • You didn't know that you didn't know that people were already talking about it.
  • 14:29
  • I, I did not know to that extent. I was still asleep.
  • 14:32
  • I slept until like the last minute because I got in so late.
  • 14:36
  • Uh, my pastor called me while the hearing was going on
  • 14:40
  • and I did not know why he was calling me. I just, I mean, we talk.
  • 14:44
  • So I sent him a voice mail and I'm like, I'm in a hearing and he's like,
  • 14:49
  • I know and I'm like, why are you calling me?
  • 14:51
  • You know, and he like,
  • 14:52
  • then sends me a message and he's like the next time you say be thick.
  • 14:57
  • Basically, he's like, um he's like, you gotta send me a warning.

  • 15:01
  • So I don't have water in my mouth and I was like, what?
  • 15:04
  • So I just assumed that my team had clipped it and
  • 15:07
  • put it on our social and my pastor follows me.
  • 15:11
  • I didn't realize that to this day my team is not put it up. Right?
  • 15:14
  • Like, so I didn't realize that it came from elsewhere at that time.
  • 15:18
  • Um And even my mom who doesn't have social media,
  • 15:21
  • I got home and she text me and she said, are you OK? And I was like,
  • 15:25
  • yeah, I'm fine.
  • 15:26
  • And so she's like,
  • 15:28
  • ok, and then she sends me like a bible verse or two
  • 15:32
  • and I'm like, ma did somebody like call you or text you
  • 15:36
  • and she was like, it was in the hill.
  • 15:38
  • So the hill had already put up some article and she had read it and I was like,
  • 15:43
  • oh my goodness.
  • 15:44
  • But no, I, what did your mom say? What, what did your mom tell you?
  • 15:47
  • Oh, it was like, you know, the devil comes to
  • 15:51
  • get you type stuff or whatever, but stay strong. It was some of that kind of stuff. Um
  • 15:56
  • But you know, but it
  • 15:58
  • in the end, um my mom definitely was not, first of all, my mom knows me very well,

  • 16:04
  • so she already knew um
  • 16:06
  • Yeah,
  • 16:07
  • you
  • 16:07
  • know where you'd be coming from? Le le let me ask you this.
  • 16:09
  • You filed a trademark application for this May 19th.
  • 16:13
  • Uh, meaning, meaning people, you know, if this is approved, can't,
  • 16:16
  • can't use this phrase bleach blonde, bad built butch body without your permission.
  • 16:21
  • Uh What, what's the plan for that phrase?
  • 16:24
  • Yeah, so we filed the trademark for the,
  • 16:27
  • um t-shirts because people immediately started producing t-shirts.
  • 16:31
  • And uh
  • 16:32
  • I was like, oh, this thing is not going anywhere.
  • 16:35
  • I was like, wait a minute,
  • 16:36
  • we need to turn this very ugly situation into something positive.
  • 16:40
  • We need to be the ones to be able to raise money. So
  • 16:43
  • to be clear, there is a trademark application that was filed.
  • 16:46
  • It was not filed in my personal capacity whatsoever.
  • 16:49
  • Um It was filed under my campaign so that the campaign could benefit
  • 16:52
  • and hopefully democracy overall can benefit as
  • 16:55
  • someone who sits in house leadership,
  • 16:57
  • I am constantly giving money away.
  • 16:59
  • Um And that is to give money to front liners.

  • 17:01
  • Um There's a race that I've been helping out with
  • 17:04
  • um a, a runoff race down uh in Houston for
  • 17:09
  • um the runoff uh that's happening for State House.
  • 17:12
  • I've also helped out with my local elected officials because it's
  • 17:15
  • always more difficult to raise money on the city level.
  • 17:18
  • Um So I actually support candidates
  • 17:20
  • on all levels of government throughout the country
  • 17:23
  • and that's what this money will go to do
  • 17:26
  • after uh Marjorie Taylor Green insulted you by by pointing out your eyelashes.
  • 17:30
  • I want to ask you about something that that, I believe you said,
  • 17:33
  • um, you said what she had done was racist and,
  • 17:36
  • and you've acknowledged that that many women of other races also wear, uh,
  • 17:39
  • fake eyelashes, explain why you think that is racial.
  • 17:43
  • And did I understand the, the comment correctly?
  • 17:45
  • Yes, absolutely. So,
  • 17:47
  • you know, I, I actually just talked to someone earlier today and I said,
  • 17:52
  • you know what, for whatever reason,
  • 17:54
  • I hadn't thought about the Obama situation with the tan suit
  • 17:58
  • and people were outraged because he wore tan suit.

  • 18:03
  • And I kept being like now why they act
  • 18:06
  • like they,
  • 18:07
  • and it wasn't that he wore a tan suit. It was that,
  • 18:10
  • that was a way of and the same people that had a problem with him
  • 18:14
  • wearing a tan suit are now OK with the orange man being on trial,
  • 18:17
  • right?
  • 18:17
  • So like
  • 18:19
  • it is this idea of I'm going to attack you
  • 18:23
  • and it's because um I am trying to demean you.
  • 18:27
  • So what we've seen a lot of maga is they always attack my parents. They talk about
  • 18:32
  • the fact that um I may wear extensions in my hair.
  • 18:36
  • They talk about my nails, they talk about my lashes,
  • 18:39
  • but they don't do it when it comes to any of the other
  • 18:41
  • members and I won't talk about who they are.
  • 18:43
  • But here recently, um I was talking to a, a member that I'm very close with.
  • 18:47
  • Um, and she is a bleach blonde and so, uh she was like,
  • 18:51
  • I don't know if I wanna change my hair color now.
  • 18:54
  • Uh but she was just laughing about it but she wears lashes, right?
  • 18:58
  • And she came up to me and she was like,

  • 19:00
  • she would never say anything to me about my ashes.
  • 19:03
  • And so we know that there is this persona that they put on it.
  • 19:07
  • They've done the Shanaynay
  • 19:09
  • things they call it ghetto.
  • 19:11
  • They associate that with that.
  • 19:13
  • And because Maga constantly attacks me on social media and says these things,
  • 19:18
  • it was one of those um racial tropes for her to say
  • 19:22
  • that was the intention.
  • 19:24
  • And Shana
  • 19:25
  • is, is one of the characters on Martin,
  • 19:28
  • right?
  • 19:28
  • Yeah.
  • 19:29
  • Um And,
  • 19:30
  • and let me get back to the t-shirts for a moment and trademarking
  • 19:32
  • this and potentially raising money off that you're not selling those t-shirts yet.
  • 19:35
  • Are you?
  • 19:37
  • Oh, you are, is, is that
  • 19:39
  • OK? So I presume that's online on your, on your website or, or campaign
  • 19:43
  • online is the clap back
  • 19:44
  • collection.com
  • 19:46
  • and, and um
  • 19:48
  • you know, you, you talked about the, the, the possibility there and how,
  • 19:52
  • you know, Marie Taylor Green on the other side and some other uh
  • 19:54
  • Republicans on the other side might
  • 19:57
  • fundraise off of, of being disruptive.

  • 20:00
  • But but doesn't some people might hear this, who, who and say that,
  • 20:04
  • listen, this just exacerbates the divisions we have in government right now.
  • 20:10
  • What would you say to that?
  • 20:12
  • You know, I,
  • 20:13
  • I here's the deal um until people decide that they want to elect serious lawmakers,
  • 20:19
  • this is the space that we're functioning in
  • 20:22
  • and I could have sat there quietly.
  • 20:25
  • That could have been a thing.
  • 20:27
  • Um I chose to defend myself because when I went to Congress,
  • 20:33
  • I didn't go to Congress to be anyone's doormat. And
  • 20:36
  • you know,
  • 20:36
  • to me it's hard to tell my district that I will
  • 20:39
  • stand up and I will fight for your rights and I
  • 20:41
  • fight for you.
  • 20:42
  • And sometimes that means even fighting for some of their lives
  • 20:45
  • and I don't even stand up and fight for myself.
  • 20:47
  • So while I had no plans of ever being disruptive for the purpose of raising money,
  • 20:55
  • um I think that
  • 20:58
  • I wanna turn what she meant for bad into something for good

  • 21:02
  • and that's all it is, it was reactive, it was responsive
  • 21:06
  • and it happens and I,
  • 21:09
  • I honestly think that the average person will be smart enough than to try me again.
  • 21:14
  • Um She's not the average and so, you know, the goal is for the chairman
  • 21:20
  • to uh be able to actually get a hold of her and control her in some respect,
  • 21:25
  • at least when it comes to me.
  • 21:27
  • Um But you know what I will say that another positive
  • 21:31
  • thing that's come out of this is that there's so many songs
  • 21:34
  • and there's some that are truly educational,
  • 21:37
  • like they are talking about things that she's done,
  • 21:40
  • they're talking about things that she hasn't done
  • 21:42
  • and to get a phone call from a friend
  • 21:45
  • who's in another state telling me that his seventh grader
  • 21:50
  • and his, uh, 18 year old were singing one of the songs
  • 21:54
  • and he asked, he said, hey, like, what is that? Y
  • 21:57
  • are singing? And the seventh grader is like, oh dad, you don't do politics.

  • 22:00
  • So you wouldn't know about it.
  • 22:02
  • And, and so, you know, he's laughing, he's one of my fraternity brothers.
  • 22:07
  • So he knows me like, personally.
  • 22:09
  • And so, um
  • 22:11
  • he's like, well, well, what do you mean politics? It's a song.
  • 22:14
  • And so he started to tell
  • 22:16
  • his dad all about who I am. This is 1/7 grader
  • 22:20
  • who somehow now.
  • 22:21
  • And he, so he didn't just know the song. He knew what happens.
  • 22:25
  • Um, and he said that his teacher went further than that and said,
  • 22:30
  • listen, this isn't the first time
  • 22:32
  • that she's had to be very aggressive
  • 22:34
  • um, in committee and things like that or I've gotten phone calls. I had a dad that
  • 22:39
  • had come to the Capitol with uh a lobbyist in his professional role.
  • 22:43
  • And I know the lobbyist and she texts me and she says, hey,
  • 22:47
  • um, I've got somebody I know you're busy.
  • 22:49
  • Is there a way that we can just sneak a
  • 22:51
  • photo because he says that his daughter loves you?
  • 22:53
  • And I said, yeah, sure, whatever.
  • 22:55
  • So they came and found me, we take a photo and I do a video for her.
  • 23:00
  • Now, this is before the marjorie thing.

  • 23:01
  • But, um turns out she attends school out in California
  • 23:06
  • and it was the daughter that had told her dad about me
  • 23:10
  • and I said, well, give me your phone, I'm gonna, you know,
  • 23:13
  • do a message for her and I did a message so that he could send it to her and he's crying.
  • 23:19
  • But this is, you know,
  • 23:21
  • there's a new generation of democrats definitely that are coming in
  • 23:25
  • and to see young people, people that, you know, when you leave it to the media say
  • 23:31
  • they just don't care, they're turned off, they're not getting engaged,
  • 23:35
  • they're not getting involved.
  • 23:36
  • I just think that they are looking for something a little different um,
  • 23:40
  • in politics as for many of them, when you look at Gen Z,
  • 23:44
  • they've, they had Obama
  • 23:46
  • and then they had Trump,
  • 23:48
  • like that's been their whole existence. Um
  • 23:50
  • And, and so it's been, it's been something that's been more positive than negative.
  • 23:55
  • Well, well, she's right and, and, and the,
  • 23:57
  • the younger folks are right there that you have gone viral many times.

  • 24:00
  • We've watched you,
  • 24:01
  • uh, do that even back to your days in the state legislature.
  • 24:05
  • Did you ever though? Think this is how
  • 24:08
  • the US Congress would be?
  • 24:10
  • No,
  • 24:12
  • I was, uh expecting great things. I always walk in with these great expectations.
  • 24:17
  • Um,
  • 24:17
  • just knowing that I had a democratic president
  • 24:20
  • and knowing that there was a Democratic Senate,
  • 24:22
  • I just fully anticipated even with the Republican House.
  • 24:26
  • Listen, we can get some things done.
  • 24:28
  • You know, this is a president that believes in working together and governance and
  • 24:33
  • um so I was like, great, we'll get some stuff done.
  • 24:35
  • It may not be my full agenda, but I'll get something done.
  • 24:38
  • Um And, and it has been more combative than, than anything and it has been
  • 24:44
  • so wasteful of my time. It's very exhausting to sit in committees
  • 24:48
  • and know that you're working on something that's never going anywhere.
  • 24:51
  • It's just so that they can go out and campaign and message versus them saying,
  • 24:56
  • listen, we're gonna do our messaging bills because we wanna keep the house for sure.

  • 25:00
  • But they're trying to do bills that can't even pass
  • 25:02
  • the house because Maga and Republicans can't figure it out.
  • 25:06
  • Um So they're just wasting so much of our time and it's exhausting.
  • 25:09
  • Well, speaking of wasting time,
  • 25:11
  • let me ask you about something I heard in an interview
  • 25:13
  • you did with K 104 in Dallas DD in the morning.
  • 25:16
  • Uh Right after this, I think it was maybe the morning after a couple of days after
  • 25:19
  • you, you said at the very end of the interview,
  • 25:22
  • you that you weren't planning on being a lifer in Congress that you,
  • 25:25
  • I think you said you'd go where you were needed.
  • 25:27
  • Um Do, do you want to stay in the House of Representatives?
  • 25:30
  • And, and what else might interest you did
  • 25:32
  • you say
  • 25:32
  • that? I want to be a lifer?
  • 25:34
  • No, you said you did not want to be a lifer.
  • 25:36
  • That's what you said.
  • 25:38
  • Well, when you said it, I, I grabbed something to write it down.
  • 25:41
  • I said, well, when I talked to Congresswoman Crock and I'm gonna ask her about this.
  • 25:44
  • What else interests you besides Congress?
  • 25:46
  • Where do you see yourself maybe in 10 years from now?
  • 25:49
  • No, I, I will tell you again. It is, I will go, uh, where and if there is a need.
  • 25:55
  • Um, but I, I don't see myself as someone that really,
  • 25:58
  • um, bask in any type of glory from being, um, uh, an elected official.

  • 26:05
  • I actually like seeing my friends, um, and hanging out with them and seeing my mom and
  • 26:12
  • everybody else. Um, I like, and miss the courtroom. I had a chance to go and
  • 26:17
  • watch the president's trial for a second on the very last day that they just had.
  • 26:23
  • Um, I, I liked my life.
  • 26:26
  • Um, there were definitely less death threats.
  • 26:30
  • Um, there was definitely less tiptoeing around, you know what you say,
  • 26:33
  • how you say it and
  • 26:35
  • people judging you in the moment
  • 26:38
  • you get.
  • 26:38
  • Oh, yeah, we do. We do. Really?
  • 26:41
  • Yeah, my team tries not to tell me.
  • 26:44
  • Um, but for the most part
  • 26:47
  • it's mostly people that are talking,
  • 26:48
  • I think that there may have been one or two incidents
  • 26:50
  • where they said that they were gonna send somebody out.
  • 26:53
  • Um, but that was way before now, who knows what they've gotten?
  • 26:58
  • Um, if, for some reason

  • 27:00
  • there's something that they really feel like I need
  • 27:02
  • to be aware of then they'll tell me.
  • 27:04
  • But
  • 27:05
  • I think my team gets more fearful than I do. But because I did criminal defense work,
  • 27:10
  • you know, most of the people that do the majority of the talk,
  • 27:12
  • especially if they're gonna call our office and say I'm a killer like
  • 27:16
  • you're not going to kill me.
  • 27:18
  • No. Right. It's a lot of noise. Usually
  • here's, here's the last question I have for you, congresswoman, what,
  • what do you want people to know about jasmine rocket?
  • I want them to know that I am a very real person.
  • Uh And you know, I do this work because I believe that we, the people deserve better.
  • And I want
  • there to be a truly representative government which means that
  • um the issues that keep my constituents up at night.
  • I wanna make sure that those issues are addressed, that they're highlighted
  • as a lawyer.
  • My job was to always um solve people's problems and that's what I'm trying to
  • do is make sure that we can get this country on a better track.

  • 28:01
  • I believe in the next generation, which is why they excite me.
  • Um just as much as I may excite them.
  • And I believe that this experiment that we have called democracy here
  • in America while it may be challenged here and there.
  • I absolutely believe that it can and it will work if we
  • just decide that we have the will to make it work.
  • Jasmine Crockett, a former civil rights current civil rights attorney.
  • I don't know if you practice very much former state legislator in uh,
  • in Texas and current congresswoman representing
  • uh parts of Dallas County, a congresswoman who is not afraid to clap back.
  • Thanks for the time. We really appreciate you being here.
  • Thank you so much, Jason.


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