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SECTION 3
WHY KAMALA HARRIS LOST THE ELECTION
Version 1 ... February 2025
- the Democrats are as responsible for Mr Trump as anybody else and it should be
- understood for the historical moment that it is and I think Mr Trump won
- because he managed this symbolism very well I am naughty I am not of that
- establishment I hate them like you do they have abused me personally just like
- you this and kamla Harris Can you know she would have had to develop a different
Why Kamala Harris Lost the Election
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- Persona a different projection she didn't do that I'm not privy so I don't know what
- her calculations were but I think they were wrong I think she lost the election
- not because Mr Trump became more popular but because her side became less so and
- so the the votes you know there were fewer voters and blah blah blah and he was able to make inroads among young
- voters and black voters more than enough to and he only won by one and a half% of
- the vote you know he he has to create the Mandate verbally because he doesn't have it in
- reality whe but you with him you never quite know whether whether he grasps the
- boundary between the fantasy and and the B and the reality or whether he really
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- thinks as other presidents have that he can now create the reality it conveniently conforms to how he would
- like it to be this you know a lot of people make that mistake before we
- return to this Narrative of change which I find very compelling and I guess it might actually be involved in this
- conversation in this this coming question and also Victor Davis Hansen who I just mentioned you referred to
- Union and in our last conversation you anticipated that the Unions would be in
- support of Biden and I wanted to ask why then for instance a union like the long
- shoreman's Union ended up going for Trump well the unions have been on
- decline in this country if you look at membership was not the only measure but
- it's an important measure they've been on decline for half a century I mean that has put them in an
- impossible situation they their traditions in this country had to do
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- with servicing your members you know filing grievances uh
- representing your workers with the employer getting better wages working conditions and that takes time and
- energy and staff and the only way you pay for that
- is if you have members who pay dues so if you're losing membership for 50 years
- and the line is literally I mean a little blips but it's basically a line
- of 50-year decline I believe their Peak was in 1955 or around there and it's
- been downhill ever since in the private sector which is the major part of our economy union membership is 7% or less
- of the labor for that means 93% of private employees are not represented by
- a union well the unions are bankrupt then they don't have them where are they going to get the money to sustain the
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- staff which could provide the services that could sustain the union when you
- put that together with the post depression roll back of the new
- deal I mean remember 1947 is crucial it's the passage of the Taft heartley
- act whose whose Provisions most people don't know but you really want to go
- back if you're interested and look at them there are things such as if you're a communist you can't be a leader of a
- union well hello friends Communists are the people who usually lead unions and
- do so in a militant way who else would you expect I mean Communists with a
- small C whether or not they're members of a Communist party and even bigger
- than the tartle ACT said anything won by a union at a
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- workplace any wage increase any working condition Improvement has to be given to
- everybody working there whether they join the union and pay dues or not I
- mean what yeah and by the way not just shame on the on on on the employer class
- for having come together to support these bills which why they pass but also the unions themselves
- did they not understand what this would do to them did it take 50 years of
- observing the results the answer is they accommodated
- to the conditions they faced and those conditions were a
- society that had gone through a trauma the collapse of its own capitalist
- system in the Great Depression and the decision of the employer class that what had happened
- there must never be allowed to happen again what happened there was the mass
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- of people cut an alliance with Mr Roosevelt and got their social security
- we talked about this last time and and all of that Social Security unemployment
- compensation the 10 million or 12 million workers hired by the government
- all of the money for that was taken from the rich the corporations and the rich whose taxes were raised and who were
- required to loan what they didn't pay in taxes okay they don't want that ever
- happen again and they went to work with a kind of unanimity and a kind of
- commitment that comes out of being frightened badly frightened by what they
- observed yeah this is hard to get across to Americans but
- what what for those people they observed was the equivalent of what Europeans
- observe oberved with Nazis marching through their streets a a shock a shock
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- a horror for many um a re shifting of the way you think
- about the world and yourself in it and they made a decision very impressive
- to and They carried it through they demonized the left look many of the people hauled
- before the house on American Activities Committee believe it or not that's what it was called not my language they chose
- an unamerican Activities Committee you they were going to decide what's
- American and what isn't and they were going to punish imprison Deport all
- kinds of things they did with those who were deemed unamerican uh they went after the the
- Coalition that produced a new deal it was a coalition of the democratic party
- Mr President Roosevelt the union movement which he
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- encouraged led by the CIO which was then the dominant union experience and there
- two socialists and one Communist party that was the New Deal coalition people interested in civil
- rights or women wanting the end of sexism found their places within those
- institutions Socialist Party communist part labor movement and that had to be smashed to bits and they went
- systematically what was the weakest link of that Coalition the Communist party
- because that could be linked to the great new enemy our former Ally right
- you had to develop a theater and that theater shaped the American political
- Consciousness I remember when my son was um of an age to go to college one of the
- places he wanted to look at was the University of Chicago so my back them up and we went
- to Chicago so that my son could you know go around and they had a little program like they usually do for for prospective
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- students and there was an existing student who took us around showed us the campus and at one point my son cuz it's
- my son said well are there political groups asking with all
- the all the open honesty and N that a
- 17-year-old would have and the Young man who was taking us around it was very nice and very helpful said yes we have
- everything from the then he me mentioned a right-wing Young Americans for Freedom
- a right-wing group all the way over to the Democratic party and for him and for everybody else
- that was it that was politics there was nothing further left
- or same way of saying it further left to takes you out of the conversation into
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- the area of scary dangerous evil for that and the young man in the
- University of Chicago very American had absorbed that without understanding what
- he was doing he absorbed the whole country is that and that's why when this
- era of capitalism is over as I believe it to be
- um and the dominant position in the United States is over as I believe it to be and you turn in with the horror of that
- the fear of what that means well then you go to the right because that's the
- alternative to what you have had all along and you feel the need for a break
- Mr Trump plays that theme endlessly I'm new I'm different I'm going to I'm going
- to I'm with the verbiage and the the the hyper you know 400 president itial
- orders each having to reverse them the next morning could didn't think it through look at this you it's a
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- spectacle but it's a spectacle that has its real Roots again I'm just keeping track of
- all the things we're going to be coming back to I I assume that a big portion of our conversation will be about the end
- of the American Empire and where we are with Trump right now but now I I would
- Is Victor Davis Hanson Wrong About the Elites’ War on the Working Class?
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- like to take this narrative you've given about the election being explained by a
- desire for Change and the inability of Harris and the Democratic party to provide that I'd like to connect that to
- what Victor Davis Hansen said and see if you see any resonance between the two ideas the way that Victor accounted for
- the election is he sees it I think as part of a larger culture war between on
- the one hand what he referred to as the B Coastal left-wing intellectual Elite
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